Dumbledore's Hand (Was Re: Snape in HBP, a draft theory)
vividscribbler
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Tue Jul 19 22:52:29 UTC 2005
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Templar wrote:
> This is my take of Snape's role in HBP, and from a girl that
always
> thought Snape was evil. This theory could also fit for a Snape
that
> works for his own - very Slytherin-like...
<SNIP>
> 4. Snape and DD knew that the magical wound/jinx/hex in his hand
> will eventually kill him... my guess is that DD would not have
lived
> for too long that year.
<SNIP>
> 5. When 'Cissy Malfoy asked Snape to do the Unbreakable Vow, Snape
> already knew of Dumbledore's wound and that his position at
Hogwarts
> was going to be compromised if DD died soon. Plus, as a double
spy,
> he also needed to convince Bella of his loyalty to the Dark Lord.
> What better proof than to offer to kill Dumbledore for a DE's
> fellow? After all, Dumbledore was going to kick the bucket sooner
or
> later...and in order to give Snape a bit more depth, perhaps he'd
> really cared for Draco Malfoy.
<SNIP>
Okay, I like it, it's very Big and very bangy, but here's where I
have a problem with this theory.
First, the canon:
Ch 4, page 67, HBP (US):
"Well, maybe you ought to think about retirement yourself," said
Slughorn bluntrly. His pale gooseberry eyse had found Dumbledore's
injured hand. "Reactions not what they were, I see."
"You're quite right," said Dumbledore serenely, shaking back his
sleeve to reveal the tips of those burned and balckened fingers; the
sight of them made the back of Harry's neck prickle unpleasantly. "I
am undoubtedly slower than I was..."
This proves two things.
1) They are both referring to the injury he sustained while removing
the Horcrux spell from the ring
2) It is a common enough, or well-known enough, type of injury that
Horace Slughorn recognizes it, and the cause of it. It was caused
because Dumbledore's relexes are not as strong as they once were,
and presumably, he couldn't block some sort of powerful magic soon
enough.
Next two bits:
In Ch 4, page 72, HBP (US), Slughorn says:
"Still...the prudent wizard keep his head down in such times. All
very well for Dumbledore to talk, but takin up a post at Hogwarts
just now would be tantmount to declaring my public allegiance to the
Order of the Phoenix! And while I'm sure they're very admiarble and
brave and all the rest of it, I dont' peronally fancy the mortality
rate-"
And again, on pages 72-73, Slughorn says:
"Well, yes, it is true that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named has never
soutght a fight with Dumbledore," he muttered grudgingly. "And I
suppose one could argue that as I have not joined the Death Eaters,
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named can hardly count me as a friend...in which
case, I might well be safer a litle closer to Albus."
These are two solid bits of canon supporting the fact that before
all, Slughorn looks out for himself and his own safety. He does not
want to be killed, it is why he's been running for a year, having
believe Albus when no one else did at the end of GOF.
This leads me to believe that Slughorn, having recognized Albus'
injury correctly, would not allow himself to be put in danger and
publicly, albiet implicitly, declare himself on Dumbledore's side,
if he believed that Dumbledore would be dead within the year. That
would put him in even more danger then ever before, no matter how
many powerful students you give him to influence.
Given that, I don't think we can say that Dumbledore's death was
imminent, just that he was getting older. Still, revise it a bit,
and the theory might still float.
Good luck,
Viv
On a side note: In the scene above, Dumbledore is wearing
Voldemort's old ring, the one he removed the spell from and lost his
hand to. Slughorn visibly notices it. Later on in the same passage
of above, in reference to the ring, it says, "Slughorn's eyes
lingered for a moment on the right too, and Harry saw a tiny frown
momentarily crease his wide forehead." Later in the book, on page
494, ch 23, we see Voldemort wearing that same ring while he sits
chatting in Slughorn's office before he corners him about the
Horcruxes. Dumbledore must have worn it then, after he'd disabled
it, to get a reaction out of Slughorn or to see if he recognized it.
I wonder if he got what he was looking for.
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