Comments on Comments-NO SNAPE

casmir2012 casmir2012 at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 20 18:55:09 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 133554

This post covers comments on Fleur, Ginny, Harry, Weasleys, OOC, 
Hermione, Dumbledore, and Ron.  NO SNAPE THEORIES

Several have stated how bothersome it was to read about how the 
Weasley's, particularly Ginny and Molly, treated Fleur.  I can see 
your argument, from being on the outside looking in.  I can only say 
that until you've met someone like Fleur in real life (and I mean 
like her, not "kind of" like her), then maybe you can't understand 
what's taking place at the Weasley's when Fleur is there.

I have met two people similar to Fleur. One I won't go into, it would 
take too long.  The other is very attractive and very vain (and from 
a european country).  She also has this way of being rude without 
concern.  She would rely on people for rides or companionship or 
whatever, and then put down everything about it.  For instance, this 
gal needed a ride somewhere.  No one in our group would offer it, so 
I did.  The whole way she told me stuff like how my car would never 
be allowed on the road where she was from, and that only beggars 
drove such cars.  She went on for over a half hour!  She also had 
something better to compare anything to (her house was nicer, her 
country was safer, her shoes were better quality, etc). She would 
also never lift a finger to help out with anything yet be there for 
the glory.  Always happy to be the eye candy or displaying model 
(like when Fleur took Molly's tray into Harry, but didn't do anything 
to help put it together).

I personally feel the Weasly's showed GREAT patience.  It wasn't 
until they could come together over their love for Bill that they 
found a common ground to build upon.  It wasn't until I saw Fleur 
have this sort of Fortitude that I even starting to like her...a 
little.  (I'm amazed she's able to love someone other than herself 
and would love to know what exactly her and Bill's relationship is 
based on...what attracts/motivates it).

Ginny is an independant gal who likes her personal space.  Maybe you 
don't like these kinds of girls...or maybe you don't want our beloved 
Harry to like them...either way, She's just as much a "character" as 
mad eye moody or fleur or luna.  I can see why she and Harry attract 
each other.  As far as Harry is concerned, Ginny has all the traits 
that made him like Cho: Quidditch player, pretty, smart, other stuff 
I can't remember. Ginny not only liked Harry from day one, but both 
give each other that personal space the other needs.  I don't see how 
Hermione and Harry could ever have a marital relationship as Hermione 
is too competitive intellectually.  Hermione's ego needs to excel 
above all others intellectually (which may be why she feels 
comfortable with Ron, she also puts loyalty above all, which Ron has 
blindly).  Sure, I would have liked better relationship development, 
but the book was large and the point was that Harry is sacrificing 
the fun stuff (ginny and quidditch) to do what he feels is right.  (I 
am sure the movie, when it comes out, will be more emotionally 
fulfiling in this department.)

If characters seem OOC, it's part of the growing up stage.  I think 
it extremely unrealistic to expect kids/teens to maintain certain 
characteristics (basic personalities, yes).  This is the very time 
they are being molded!  The more comfortable they are with a 
relationship/each other, the more free they feel to be snippish, or 
to boldly express themselves.  Hermione acts like any reasonable 
woman who has been cut to the bone.  Ron definately acts his age, and 
I for one loved that Harry was becoming a man, taking the inititive 
and making decisions instead of waiting for Hermione to make the 
connections for him.  It's called progress/growing up....you don't 
really expect them to stay in 13 year old relationships 
forever ...right?  People complained when Harry had the gall to 
exhibit teen angst in the last book, too.

Dumbledore didn't come across much different to me, the only 
difference is that we actually got to know him outside the fatherly 
and concerned discussions at the end of the books.  Imagine DD being 
something other than an answer machine after the woe...you mean he is 
something more?

I love it when the books aren't what we expect...it gives us a much 
larger view of their world.

  
Casmir.









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