New Snape Theory - SHINY GOLD PASHMINAS revealed - LONG

Jen Reese stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 21 16:33:23 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 133869

Valky:
> Before I continue to the worst spoiler of all, I will tell you, I 
am
> more than wiling to answer your questions about the Diary and 
Ginny,
> ask away... I have thought it through..
> 
> 
> Valky
> SHINY GOLD PASHMINAS
> Souls Horcruxes Individually Never Yeild. Giving Our Lives for his
> Death. Prejudiced Against Snape Harry Misinterprets Albus Noble
> Sacrifice...

Jen: I finally had time to really contemplate your thoughts, Valky, 
and I'm speechless as usual in the face of one of your theories. 
Perhaps it's the way you write, but I always think 'oh, she's got 
this one figured out.' 

I snippped most of your theory b/c my thoughts are pretty scattered 
at the moment and I just wanted to do a stream of conciousness thing 
at first.

**(Also, where am I missing the 'worst spoiler of all'? I've been 
trying to find that and can't. Please direct me or let me know if 
you're still waiting to post it)**

In the recent TIME magazine article, JKR said this about the 
books: "Um. I don't think they're that secular...but obviously 
Dumbledore is not Jesus.' Food for thought, that is. ;)

HBP brought to mind wonderings about resurrection, given all the 
Phoenix imagery, and of course the white tomb so like another tomb 
where a resurrection took place. But then JKR seems to be saying we 
shouldn't look for Dumbledore to be a representation of Jesus. Maybe 
sacrifice IS the name of the game at work here, the underlying 
philosophical and spiritual concept in the series that makes it "um, 
not that secular."

The stage is certainly set by Lily's sacrifice. And you mentioned 
the bond Sirius made with Dumbledore to sacrifice himself for Harry. 
Personally I think this one goes much farther back, back to the 
christening ceremony to make Sirius Harry's Godfather:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/105067

The times Sirius said he would 'die for his friends' is not just 
blather. He's willing to die for Harry, so much so he swore his life 
on it in that ceremony (perhaps via the mysterious Unbreakable vow, 
perhaps not). So it doesn't bother me at all that Sirius was a 
willing participant, although I don't believe it was at DD's 
request, but James'instead.

Now on to the meat of your theory, the Horcruxes. Just a few 
thoughts in no particular order:

1) It seems more likely that Voldemort was hoping to place one of 
his souls at the time of the Harry's death. Since the Potters are at 
GH, he was hoping to use an artifact from Gryffindor owned by the 
Potters. So I'm not sure how that would work with Lily's death 
taking out one of the horcruxes. I think there was no horcrux 
involved with that sacrifice.  (As an aside, that might explain why 
there are no more artifacts belonging to GG but the sword, perhaps 
the remaining ones were destroyed when GH was destroyed).

2) You mentioned the diary--well? :-) I'm hoping for an explanation 
about where that soul is now, if not completely destroyed.

3) While I love your theory, it seems a bit cumbersome to carry out 
completely in Book 7. Although I do love the symmetry that Harry 
notes all the people "who stood in front of him one by one, his 
mother, his father, his godfather and finally Dumbledore; all 
determined to protect him." (Chap. 30, p. 635, US). To find out 
those same people actually made a willing sacrifice for him!!! Well, 
after he feels guilty, he'll understand the enormity of it <g>.

And oh how I'd love to see Snape sacrifice himself for Harry while 
extinguishing the last horcrux before the one inside Voldemort!!! 
But the cumbersome part....I don't know. That's a lot of deaths, 
very methodical deaths in some ways. Four I believe? If not written 
right that could drag on and on. But JKR always surprises me! 
Thankfully her imagination is better than mine.

That's all for now. Lay more of your theory on me because it's a 
*good* one, and could really tie everything together.

Jen, thinking there was more but it escapes her now.






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