Horcruxes and why Harry can't die - yet!

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No: HPFGUIDX 134278

For Meglet's message see below, but basically ...

When I, myself, first read about horcruxes, something I've puzzled 
over for a while seemed to perhaps make sense (why Harry has so much 
of LV's abilities, e.g parseltongue, in him), especially when a 
living being (Nagini) can be a receptacle (if with worrying 
consequences): Harry himself is, perhaps, Voldemort's ultimate 
horcrux, the first ever (?) human/wizard horcrux - a final triumph 
for LV in proving how powerful he is, but which backfired on him 
BIGTIME. The future battle might therefore be whether Harry can rid 
himself of his Voldemort part (and perhaps his scar) by 
killing 'mortal' LV/TMR? without, himself, dying in the process.

Tell me I'm talking trash. 

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "meglet2" <mercia at i...> wrote:
> This is my first post for a very long time and forgive me if this 
> has been discussed. I am some days behind with reading posts and I 
> can't possibly catch up with everything.
> 
> I found myself yet again reflecting on those wretched ambiguous 
> final words of the prophecy, 'neither can live while the other 
> survives.' Voldemort has created horcruxes to prevent his own 
death, 
> death being his greatest fear (see Muggletnet/LC interview with 
> JKR). We know that is why he didn't die when the curse intended to 
> kill baby Harry rebounded on him. But were those words of the 
> prophecy the reason why the curse rebounded and was that a further 
> reason also why Harry didn't die, as well as the protection 
afforded 
> by Lily's sacrifice? After all most mothers would do the same to 
> protect their children and there is no evidence that such 
sacrifices 
> have prevented other children from dying. Could the interpretation 
> of those last words be something like this.
> 
> If the one of these two, ie the Dark Lord and the one who will be 
> his equal, succeeds in killing the other, he will in fact be 
signing 
> his own death sentence, for *neither* can live while the other 
> survives. They have both after all been surviving together through 
> six books and 15 years so far so it can't simply mean that they 
> can't both be alive at the same time. But it might mean while 
there 
> is a survivor of a final climactic battle. Since Voldemort cannot 
be 
> killed by Harry while his horcroxes exist, once Harry has found 
and 
> destroyed however many remain and left Voldemort mortal again, 
then 
> if he kills him both will in fact die. As Voldemort hasn't heard 
the 
> final part of the prophecy he doesn't realise that killing Harry 
> will not be possible unless he also is mortal and that it can only 
> be done at the cost of his own life. 
> 
> This is I admit a bit fiendish and convoluted and I am not 100% 
sure 
> if it logically stands up. That prophecy drives me mad because the 
> meaning seems to twist for me every time I read it. But that 
> explanation mightjust possibly be twisted enough for JKR. It also 
> makes Harry doomed for I am sure that he will succeed in Book 7 in 
> destroying the horcruxes and in destroying Voldemort. But I fear 
the 
> cost will be his own life too. I also think DD may realise this 
also 
> but still think the sacrifice, even of Harry worth it since as he 
> told us in the very first book, 'Death is the last great adventure 
> the well ordered mind.'
> 
> Any comments
> 
> Meglet