Snape/Dumbledore argument

catjaneway slmuth at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 23 16:46:52 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 134402

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "snipsnapsnurr" 
<snipsnapsnurr at y...> wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out what Hagrid overheard Snape and 
> Dumbledore arguing about. What did Snape want to stop doing? 

Janeway:

I've been wondering the same thing. I posted on this in mssg #133584.

In addition to your list of things we know that Snape was "doing" at 
the time, I also had:

5. He is (or has been) providing treatment for DD after his mission
(s) to destroy horcrux(es). 

6. He may be participating in some other way in a plan of DD's that 
we don't know about(such as helping to find the Horcruxes, or 
requiring SS to kill DD). 

7. He is acting as head of Slytherin. 


Snipsnapsnurr: 
> 2. He is teaching DADA. Why would he want to stop doing that? That 
> has been his ambition throughout the whole series.

Janeway:
This is actually my guess as to what he didn't want to do anymore. 
Here is the snip from my earlier post as to why:

"My theory on what Snape doesn't want to do anymore is... teach DADA.
DD and Snape both know the position is cursed/limited to one year.
Snape initially agreed to take the risk (why?), but he is beginning
to realize that things are not going well for him. (He has taken the
unbreakable vow, now he's realizing he isn't able to control Malfoy
as he thought he would... he may have to reveal his true loyalties
and kill DD himself). So now he's trying to back out, and DD
won't let him."

I think the question of whether or not Snape was *knowingly* 
involved in finding the horcruxes is a crucial one, because if he 
was, he is now in a position to tell LV. Personally, I think that DD 
did *not* tell him. This is because: 

a) DD was clearly keeping this a deep secret, and did not tell 
McGonagall or the ministry or the Order, and told Harry to tell no 
one except R/Hr; and 

b) When Snape tells Bella about DD's hand, he attributes it to "slow 
reflexes," which is also what DD tells Slughorn at Budleigh 
Babberton and the DEs on the astronomy tower. I think this is DD's 
cover story, which he also told to Snape when he returned badly 
injured from an unnamed mission (ie., finding and destroying the 
ring horcrux). When DD tells Harry what happened, he actually says 
he used "prodigious skill" to destroy the horcrux. Nothing 
about "slow reflexes". (Yes, Snape could be lying to Bella about 
DD's injury, and if so I think it's the best evidence for Good!Snape 
that I've been able to find. But I think it more likely that Snape 
was not on DD's "need to know" list for Horcruxes.)

JMO,
Janeway











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