Omniscient Dumbledore (Was Re: Snape's AK Failed!!!, and DADA responses)
catjaneway
slmuth at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 25 18:27:42 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 134833
Julie wrote:
> DD pretty much does what will help him achieve his goals,
> period, thus he put Slughorn and more particularly Snape
> *exactly* where he wanted them both, IMO.
Now Janeway:
I'm curious to know why so many folks seem to believe in an all-
knowing, all-powerful Dumbledore (or nearly so), when there's soooo
much canon pointing to his mistakes. It hardly seems necessary to
reiterate what they are, as most of them form the plots of the
previous books: LV!Quirrel, TR!Ginny, Spy!Pettigrew and Innocent!
Sirius, Polyjuice!Barty, and the big reveal of OOP that DD blames
himself for Sirius death because he didn't trust Harry with the
truth about the prophecy. You have to do some pretty hard theorizing
to explain away all of these mistakes (not that I haven't tried!!).
So it surprises me that many people seem to base their belief in
Good!Snape wholly or partly on their belief that DD could never make
a mistake like that.
What's the evidence for an all-but-omniscient Dumbledore?
(BTW, I don't mean to suggest that Julie thinks that DD is
omniscient, or that she thinks DD could never have made a mistake
about Snape. Her post was just a trigger in my mind for this more
general question.)
Julie again:
>
> > And it's not like Dumbledore has hired teachers with the most
> competence, especially in DADA, given that he let that dimwit
> Lockheart teach DADA one year. And Quirrell didn't seem all
> that great either (certainly Umbridge wasn't though DD had
> nothing to do with that).
Janeway again:
Julie, first thanks for reading and replying thoughtfully to my
excessively long post! Second, aren't you trying to have it both
ways here? DD does just what will help him achieve his goals, but he
sometimes hires incompetent teachers? I guess one could argue that
hiring incompetent teachers *did* help him achieve his goals in
these particular cases, or that the incompetent teachers at least
didn't *prevent* him from achieving his goals. I think it makes more
sense to recognize that DD has the normal limitations of a
headmaster in finding good teachers and sometimes has to make
compromises.
JMO,
Janeway
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