Horcrux creation and different kinds of magic

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 135151



> Jen:
> JKR definitely likes her characters to live in the gray area, so 
> it's possible she's saying 'look, even with part of Voldemort's soul 
> Harry is still making the right choices'. But it taints things, too. 
> Then it wasn't just Lily's sacrifice that saved Harry, it was also 
> being forcibly sealed as a Horcrux against his will. Magic so dark 
> you can't even read about it at Hogwarts! Dark, very dark. It would 
> make a great ending, how Harry discovers he's a Horcrux and what he 
> does to destroy LV's soul inside without killing himself, 
> but....there would be some flaws to overcome with that plot 
> development. 
> 

Valky:
I am slightly fencesitting on this one myself. I believe it's possible
that Harry was made accidentally into a Horcrux in GH, but I believe
that if he was, he's an extremely exceptional case and possibly even a
unwanted extra Horcrux to boot. 

The thing I wanted to note specifically about what Jen said here was
the thought of Harry destroying a Horcrux inside him without killing
himself. Thinking about this reminds me of the Mirror of Erised and
the Philosophers Stone. Harry got the stone because he wanted to find
it, but not use it. The point of a Horcrux is the same as the elixir
of life, it makes one immortal, and when Harry looks into the mirror
he sees himself holding the stone.  I don't think I need to reiterate
all the reasons why we should consider the final under the trapdoor
task as a foreshadowing of the final book so just assuming I did that,
lets place Harry-Horcrux before Voldemort in the end of book seven.
Harry is looking for a Horcrux, and lets assume that Voldemort too is
looking for his last Horcrux after Harry et al destroys the rest,
which he has now realised is in Harry. Voldemort wants to use it,
because he is afraid of dying ergo he can't kill Harry now, because he
will die if Harry kills him too. And neither can Harry kill Voldemort
now, because Voldemort won't die unless Harry dies too. But this
involutes the prophecy because it means that neither can *die* if the
other survives, not that neither can live. Unless we consider also
that they aren't ever going to work together and Voldemort will still
wish to kill Harry, but survive so he can reclaim his piece of soul,
and Harry will not want to live if it helps Voldemort achieve his ends
but he knows the Voldemort will not give up trying to kill him, and he
must survive to stop Voldemort reclaiming his soul, the only way to
survive is to kill Voldemort.

So then Harry cannot live if Voldemort survives the battle, for the
battle won't end for Voldie till Harry is dead. And Voldemort cannot
live if Harry survives the battle for if Harry finds a way to survive
it will almost certainly be taking Voldemorts life.

So with that in mind back to the mirror of Erised. Harry wants to find
the Horcrux but not use it. When he finds it in himself he and
Voldemort will begin to battle. This is exactly like the under the
trapdoor scenario with one exception. This battle will be neverending
until one of them is dead. 

So what about the gleam? The blood? and the Love in Harry's very skin
at the end of PS/SS. Certainly this is how the battle will end with
one victorious, but what is it about the blood that they now share? 

After plotting that scenario my brain is in knots so I'll let you
ponder it a bit before I go on with other thoughts. 

Valky