Harrry the Horcrux - Body and Soul

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 135427

bboyminn:

First, my appologise to people who have challenged my Horcrux
positions in previous posts. Post count is running very high and my
energy level has been running very low, so I haven't had time to do
the research necessary to respond point by point.

My position is not to challenge the idea that a part of Voldemort's
soul could be in Harry, though I personally doubt it; it's to
challenge people jumping into Horcrux applications without first
trying to understand the Horcrux itself. 

Anything can be a Horcrux; my computer keyboard, my car keys, my
drinking glass,...anything, but what is the likelihood? Harry's
morning breakfast cereal could be a Horcrux, but what are the odds?
Further, I believe if you take the time to understand the nature of
the Horcrux, you wiil see that it's unlikely for Harry to be one. 

True you can fantasize that the pre-prepared Horcrux somehow magically
jumped out of Voldemort's pocket and by magical happenstance happened
to hit Harry on the forehead giving him a scar, but that still doesn't
explain anything other that some object falling from Voldemort's
pocket. That's simply not enough to make Harry a Horcrux.

People have jumped way too quickly into speculating how Horcruxes are
or could be used without examining the nature of the Horcrux itself.
I'm not against half-baked ideas, I have plenty of my own, but I think
we would all be a lot better off if we first discussed the nature,
creation, and application of Horcrux in general, then once we had some
foundation and understanding, theoretical as it may be, we could
discuss the specific applications of the Horcrux.

Based on my understanding of the vague and general nature of the
Horcrux, I don't see how Harry could be one with out some great and
very substantial leaps of faith. Certainly some 'bit' of Voldemort is
in Harry, that's a fact, but we don't really know if that 'bit' is
part of Voldemort's soul or part of his earthy essense.

I used the term 'earthy essense' before, and someone suggested that it
was just another way of saying 'soul'. But there is a big divide
between body and soul. Soul is a broad and general spiritual essense
which does not identify with the body, or with earthly talents or
powers. The body is merely the vehicle that carries the Soul around
for this lifetime. 

A Ghost is, in a manner of speaking, merely a soul that is afraid of
letting go of it's vehicle. Or more correctly, the earthly essense of
a being is afraid to let go of it's earthly identity, and so the soul
is trapped in the half-life of a ghost; neither body or soul. My point
here is to make a distinction between what is earthly essense, what is
spirit,  and what is soul, and to illustrate how clinging to earthly
indentity prevents a spirit from crossing over into pure soul. It is
the total divorce and abandonment of all things earthly that bring out
the essense of soul.

I believe what was tranferred to Harry is part of Voldemort's earthy
vehicle, and not part of his soul. His ability to speak Parsle Tongue
is part of Voldemort's earthy essense, part of his earthly identity.
It's not associated with the true pure spiritual essense of his soul.

Further, when it is and has been so blatantly obvious that a part of
Voldemort is in Harry, how could Dumbledore not conclude that that
'part' was a part of Voldemort's soul? Dumbledore would have to be
completely retarted to have not already have thought of it. In HBP,
Dumbledore talks of part of Voldemort being in Harry and in nearly the
same breath speaks of the Horcrux. Seriously, he would have to be near
brain dead not to make the connection, but he doesn't. That tell me
that he considered it and rejected the idea. That further tells me
that it is some part of Voldemort's earthly self that is in Harry and
not part of Voldemort's soul.

I'm not saying the story couldn't go in the direction of Harry being a
container for part of Voldemort's soul. I'm simply saying that after
careful analysis of what I believe is the nature of the Horcrux; I
don't see how Harry could end up being one; at least not without huge
unprecidented leaps of the imagination.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn