Snape's Memories Again

zgirnius zgirnius at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 29 14:16:57 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 135535


> Schumar/Marianne S: 
> 
> > I believe the point of seeing the Pensieve memories in the third
> > person is that we get to see what ACTUALLY happened, not a biased 
> > interpretation of the rememberer. 

zgirnius:
And possibly we even see things the person himself does not remember. 
For example, in the Pensieve scene with Snape and the Marauders, 
Snape sits down off somewhere by himself to go over the DADA OWL he 
has just taken. It seems highly unlikely he would have noticed all 
the antics and dialogue of the Marauders (which Harry sees in that 
memory) while concentrating on such a task.

> Gatta:
> But what about when Harry actually reads Snape's mind during the
> Occulmency lesson? Does Snape *normally* see himself "outside over
> there"? I think psychologists have a word for this sort of thing, 
but
> I can't remember what it is.

zgirnius:
I would not want to try to make a psychiatric diagnosis on Snape 
based on the fact that when Harry succeeds in Legilimensing him via 
the Chield charm, Harry sees the memories in the third person. This 
is the only case in the books where we get to see the effects of 
someone Legilimensing someone else. It could just be the way that the 
Legilimency magic/ability works...you get to see the other person's 
thoughts/memories, but since you are not they, they are in the thrid 
person for you. (Of course, this could also be wrong...my point is 
that since we only have one case it is not much to base a theory on).

We *do* see Harry have first person experiences of others through 
magical means(the snake attacking Arthur Weasley), but I think 
everyone (incluiding DD, who is the expert, I suppose) seems to feel 
that the LV/Harry link is a pretty unique phenomenon.






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