Harry not kind and loyal anymore? Was:Re: "Some won't like it"

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BG wrote:
> 
"I hope she keeps the angry, questioning, moody yet - loyal and kind
Harry. "

Alina: 
I think right you summarized why I'm one of the people that has a big
problem with Angry!Harry - he's not kind and loyal anymore! He keeps
on getting on his friends' cases, lashing out at them and acting like
they're doing wrong by him. "What do they understand, stupid Ron,
stupid Hermione, I'm the great Harry, how dare they act like they 
know anything about how hard my life is."

Alla:

Well, certainly Harry is not very kind for the most part of OOP, 
IMO. But I am one of those who think that besides the fact that it 
is very understandable phase of the teenager development, Harry was 
justified in acting the way  he did.

He was put through a horrible ordeal at the end of GoF and he was 
kept from contacts with his friends all summer along,w hile that 
could have helped to ease the trauma.

He unwillingly participated in voldemort's return and he was kept in 
the dark about anything what was happening by the man he trusted 
unconditionally - Dumbledore.

I also don't remember the examples of Harry acting like "I am the 
great Harry". He WAS lashing out on Ron and Hermione, true and no, 
they did not deserve it, but I think that true friends should stand 
by each other even when their friend is not acting too maturely, to 
put it mildly.

Ron and Hermione for the most part patiently let Harry run his mouth 
at them, because ( IMO) they understood Harry's need to let his 
frustration out. Good for them. :-)

I said before that I consider this friendship to be one of the most 
touching friendships I ever read about in fiction.\

They ALL had been acting immaturely throughout the books. Remember 
how badly was Harry hurt when Ron refused to believe him in GoF?

Remember Hermione in PoA? Well, this book was Hary's turn to show 
some immaturity. I think he was entitled to it. :-) Just me of 
course.

So, Harry was not kind, but could you give me the examples of his 
disloyalty? To me disloyalty means much more than screaming at one's 
friends and I cannot remeber any examples of Harry's disloyalty.


Alina:
Remember that scene where Ginny basically calls Harry stupid for 
forgetting that she's the only person he knows who's been possessed 
by Voldemort? 

Alla:

Yep, he forgot and did feel bad when Ginny called him on it. There 
are NOT that many people by the way who knows what it means to be 
possessed by Voldie. So far we know about only two.

Alina:
Harry keeps on acting like he's the only person who goes through 
hardships or does anything worth while and even the above-mentioned 
scene didn't wake him up to the reality that there are other people 
out there who know things he doens't.

Alla:

On the contrary, I think that throuout the book Harry's reality was 
he knew that other people know things he does not and won't tell him.

I honestly don't ask you to like OOP! Harry. I know that not 
everybody did. I love him much more after OOP, personally.


Just my opinion and my opinion only,

Alla.