Sirius and Prank again? Fools Rush in where Wisemen Fear to Go

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 2 16:06:18 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129903


> Valky:
> I would just like to interject to say that I agree with this 
statement
> in as much as it says Sirius managed to definitely portray these
> intentions. But I don't disregard that it is possible Sirius acted 
on
> different intentions without properly realising the consequences. 
> He was after all young and troubled at the time and it is proven 
that
> Sirius, even up to his death, behaved erraticly and rashly 
especially
> when provoked.

a_svirn:

I'd say that the fact that he was "young and troubled" doesn't 
diminish the potential wickedness of his intentions in the least. 
Would he be more likely to contemplate murder if he were mature and 
happy? I don't think so somehow. As for not properly realising 
consequences it's ... well, let's say I just don't buy it. How dim 
should he has been not to know exactly what is more likely to happen 
if his classmate were to walk into a transformed werewolf? And we've 
been told that Sirius was an exceptionally bright student. 


> Valky:
> In this context I think "tried" is too strong a word. 

a_svirn:
I don't see why. I think it's a pretty neutral word in any context.

 Valky:
>But I agree that
> betrayal however rash and inadvertant is betrayal.

a_svirn:
It would be inadvertent if it were a mere slip of tongue. But it 
wouldn't be a betrayal then, would it?

Valky:
>I agree that Lupin
> was not in on these goings on, and I believe that neither was 
James.
> But they did forgive Sirius for what he'd done and remember that 
Lupin
> trusted Sirius less later on.

a_svirn:

He didn't betray James, so he had nothing to forgive. As for Lupin, 
from what we've seen in the books his dependence of his friends' 
acceptance is his greatest weakness. It's actually not to his 
credit, that he forgave Sirius. 









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