Changing the title because I'm tired of it, was "Some won't like it". The Scar Connection Implications.
Amanda Geist
editor at texas.net
Sat Jun 4 22:28:39 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130054
Phoenixgod:
> Funny I don't recall him being given an Auror pin or a phoenix
> badge. Harry isn't a soldier and he wasn't drafted into any
> organization (except maybe by destiny). Dumbledore didn't give him a
> junior fledging Order of the Phoenix card. Maybe if he had, you
> would have some room to stand on, but as it stands, Harry isn't
> under orders to anyone other than his conscience. Harry is under no
> duty to obey General Dumbledore unless the order is 'do your
> homework.'
Oh, come *on.* If Harry's whole attitude at the first of the book, and the
whole basis for his resentment throughout, is not an awareness that this is
a time of crisis and conflict and that there is an enemy to be fought, I
don't know what else it could be.
> Snape isn't in authority over him when it comes to his 'remedial
> potion lessons'. Occulomency is completely outside of his authority
> as a school teacher.
I disagree on a couple of points. One, even if it is for a purpose outside
the standard lesson, it *is* something the headmaster of a school has asked
this particular master to teach this particular student. The need for cover
is due to the complicating factor of Umbridge. Two, Snape has authority over
Harry at any time of the day, for any reason, because he is part of the
administration of the school at which Harry lives. Three, Snape has
authority over Harry because he is an adult and Harry is a child and a
certain amount of respect is due.
> They all told him it was important. Not a single one of them said
> why it was important. How could shielding his mind possibly be more
> valuable than knowing what Voldemort knows? That is the answer no
> one gives.
Snape gave it, but Harry didn't understand it. It was important that, until
the channel could be controlled or turned off, that Harry not know too much,
because it was a clear and present danger that Voldemort would become aware
of, and then use, that channel for intelligence and manipulation purposes.
> Harry wasn't asked to make any moves. He was just given short curt
> answers that did nothing to assuage his real questions and did
> everything to make him ANGRY!Harry.
Awww. Poor baby. Here he is, the center of the universe, and nobody's
telling him anything. After all he's suffered and gone through and done.
Poor woobie. Hey, sometimes the answer is "you can't know that yet" and
sometimes the situation is an emergency. If I tell my kid to stop balancing
on the balcony, I want her *down* and RIGHT NOW and I am not about to get
into a debate about the dangers until the immediate danger is past. I will
go and get her, and if I make her mad because I didn't explain or didn't
listen, too bad--she's alive to be mad. She'll get over it.
> You're kidding right? You cannot possibly mean that Severus Snape
> should serve as an example of emotional control and the triumph of
> reason over emotion. the same guy who hates a child he's never met
> based on looking like his high school bully father? the same guy who
> thinks that humiliating childern is jolly good fun? That guy?
I think Severus Snape controls a great deal of emotion. He's usually quite
controlled. That's the main reason that it stands out so when his control
slips. Yes, if Harry would ever see Snape as Snape, I think there are many
skills there he could benefit from. I don't think Snape likes Harry, but I
don't believe Snape ever set himself up as Harry's enemy. For God's sake,
Snape is a grown man with better things to do with his time. When Harry
crosses his path, Snape feels no obligation to be pleasant, but I doubt
Harry is in Snape's mind with anything like the frequency or venom that
Snape is in Harry's.
~Amanda
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