"Some won't like it". The Scar Connection Implications.
Tonks
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Sat Jun 4 17:14:44 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130039
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...>
wrote:
> Valky:
> Woohoo here here! I don't think that Snapes voice of reason came
> through all that clearly through the ice cold unfeeling barricade
he put up around it. IMHO what phoenixgod posited is fair to say,
Harry was desperate to have a reason that he could believe in, that
> Occlumency was a hope for the good of something. Snape represents
it as a self effacing barely necessary precaution, which is hardly
the fair truth or a voice of reason. At least Hermione expresses a
> reasonable concern for what might happen if he doesn't successfully
> learn it, Snape as good as rebukes the notion that anything will
> happen. He even directly rebukes notions that Harry would be of any
> interest to Voldemort.
Tonks translating Tonks:
What I was saying was that Snape is an example of turning off your
emotions. Mind over emotions. Snape is the unemotional one. Now I
know that some here don't see him that way, but some of us do. He
turns off his emotions and presents this cold exterior. I am not
suggesting that Harry become like Snape in that way. I am suggesting
that Harry can see in Snape's behavior the idea that one must turn
off strong emotions. (Which except for a couple of times Snape is
able to do.) Hasn't Harry been told that strong emotions are how
the Dark Lord can manipulate someone? (I'd like to say to
Harry: "You know Harry, sometimes we can learn even from those we
dislike.")
Also to explore what you have said about Snape downplaying Harry's
importance, etc. I think that what we might possible have here is
the idea that you don't give the Dark Lord the fuel that he needs to
manipulate you. In other words: Don't think about the Dark Lord, or
that you might be important to him. "You are neither special nor
important" Snape says. The idea is humility. The Dark Lord uses your
pride and sense of self importance. Yes Harry is important to the
fight against LV, but to fight LV he must not feel that he is the
only one even when he is the only one. (Imagine what a burden it
would have been for Harry to know about the prophesy earlier in his
life.) And I know I am not expressing myself clearly here and
someone is bound to misunderstand it. In Christian terms one humbles
oneself so that the power of God can work in and through you, but
you know, really *know* that you are as the saying goes *a worm and
no man*. That is the idea that Snape is trying to teach Harry,
directly or indirectly, IMHO. ;-) Harry must be humble. Being humble
means being honest with yourself. And I think that for the most part
Harry is. Snape fears that Harry is not humble, perhaps because this
is one of the way that the Dark Lord trapped Snape, and Snape is
projecting here. Or maybe Snape thinks that Harry really is neither
special nor important, but ... well who can fathom the mind of a
potions master?
Tonks_op
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