[HPforGrownups] Re: Explaining the danger to Harry (LONG)

[doliesl at yahoo.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 130113


> Alla:
> 
> Let's finish this quote, shall we? ;)
> 
> "He might," said Snape, sounding cold and unconcerned. "Which brings 
> us back to Occlumency" - OOP, p.333, paperback.
> 
> Nope, does not sound to me as stressing importance of the lessons at 
> all. If Snape sounded unconcerned, why exactly should Harry be more 
> concerned than him?

See this is exactly the sorry excuse apologists hang onto that painted Harry's character
so incredibly petty and pathetic. So the 'why it's dangerous and important' point is
already made, but posters here often screamed "NO THEY DIDN"T TELL HIM ANYTHING!!!!"
Again and again. Then everytime someone quote (and in this sorry ironic post you have to
chose to quote, that person deliberately miss the key passage), then you all changed to
"well then the importance and danger not emphasizes enough~" Yeah it'd never be enough
for apologist alright because the point is to excuse Harry to squeaky white clean. (Then
can we stop the "but they didn't tell him a thing at all'?).  And I'd tell you, NOTHING
will ever be enough, not a good teacher Lupin will do, and you know why, because then
THERE'D BE NO STORY!). 

The key for me is Harry is so stupid to that it just went over his head because it sure
didn't went over mine, as a reader I GOT it as an omen like half a second, and I can't
stand stupid hero. Harry is not only stupid, lacking common sense and ignorant to
understand, he's so thick to the point (yet he thinks Grabbe and Goyle are dumb?) where
he must relied on the other party(ies) to pound an exclamation mark at the end,
figurative speaking of course. It's all about other, NEVER me~~~ Gosh this made Harry
sound so petty and stupid.

Point is made, Harry also saids it himself, yet he deliberately didn't care for it. He
made that decision. And he screw up himself, making one fatal mistakes after another,
it's his story, they were his decisions. It's all about him and no matter what, it's
always Harry. It is exactly Harry's own mistakes that makes the consequence tragic events
heartbreaking, and the whole laughable pointless 'percentage of blame" games takes away
the powerful impact of Harry's tradegy and making Harry a sorry, petty, whiny
irresponsible 'it's all other people fault, see let's calculate _excuses and excuse_ and
see how I only shed 1% ok" brat. 

> Alla:
> 
> Nope, Harry was not RIGHT not to trust Snape, but he was justified 
> in not trusting Snape, IMO. Snape gave him no reasons to trust him 
> during these five years.

So? Again, the book is about Harry, not Snape, it's still Harry's own sorry decisions to
act certain way that led the story. Sirius's to die because Harry's sorry decision(s). If
whatever Harry feels like is justified, that's only justified in the sense of "story and
character relationship is setup that way, must happen this way', not to excuse how
Harry's decisions to act certain way are sooooo not sorry and not bad, as Harry
apologists insist.  

D.