The good Slytherin / Salazar (Ye Purebloods, Merlin was What!?)

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> 
> Now The Barmaid <snipped>:
> Overall it seems to me that JKR is creating a world where gender is 
> not really an issue as it relates to what sort of jobs one can do or 
> how successful or powerful an individual can become.  Having gender 
> balance in the founders goes a long way in building this idea.  This 
> is one of the things that appealed to me about the books from the 
> start.
> 
>      -- The Barmaid

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:

So, since I've been so charged lately, with being mistaken, I suppose 
I should clarify more and justify my silly thoughs, since, some of 
them were just fun comments, or maybe I should just shut up...meh..I 
go for clarify I think, 

We have in the story such a big idea of family involved in the book, 
and in the wizarding world that JKR is describing. I don't see monks 
or nuns here, in this wizarding community I have read about so far, 
these people are having kids, and getting married, and by the amount 
of students that are showing up at Hogwarts. I don't see them as, holy 
obstainers...meh..maybe that went to the religious idea I replied to 
earlier in this thread, so, take that as it is, just an offhand 
comment.

I don't think these ideals all of a sudden came up now that Harry is 
in school in the 90's. I imagine, perhaps as someone said, maybe the 
original founders were, very religeous, or something to that affect, 
so sqashing my notion of the founders being involved with each other, 
I would still wager though, they may have though about being married 
to each other, you can't get two men and two women together without 
that though never occuring, but, maybe they were 
workaholics...building a castle is a lot of work I imagine, even for 
wizards. Yes, I can hear some of you argue that, you can indeed get 
two men and women in a room and they will not think of getting 
married, and this is a childrens book, but I wager, considering what I 
know, if they were adults, that at least though it once.
Perhaps that could have been why they seperated from the muggle 
community, because they wanted to not worry about the women/man issue. 
If that is so, I say, you go girls, Rowena and Helga sure trained 
Godrick and Salizar, of course, one wonders how old they were when 
they founded Hogwarts, I don't know if there is any canon to give 
there ages..so...I'll digress from that.

But, I also think, we are assuming something here, Was Hogwarts the 
origination of the Wizarding World, Seperate from the Muggle World, or 
was the Wizarding World, already seperated from the Muggle world? I 
believe this is a what came first, the chicken or the egg question.

It might be considered that perhaps the teachers are the one's who, do 
not have a family life, because being a teacher of magical children is 
a full time job, but I also remember that JKR made a comment about 
Professors being married, I suppose their is more to come of that.

The idea of being Pureblood, the big ideas of having kids continue the 
pureblood ideals, and the pureblood line, don't seem like very non 
gender related topic to me. It is harkening back to the days when 
women were sold to the highest bidder, and, if these pureblood ideals 
still exist, then I would say in the wizarding world it would still 
have to go on to some extent, so, the book's don't seem to show, at 
least to me, that they the wold JKR had created is minus in the normal 
muggle gender bias. Families who are pureblood and also friends, would 
have to assure their children married, and had children who were 
pureblood.

That may be a mutual thing between the two who are going to marry, and 
it may just be a time honored tradition in the Slytherin house, but, 
it is also being brought up in a very non gender friendly way, if you 
ask me. A woman would be forced to accept her family's choice, purely 
based on the bloodline and nothing else.

The books also overflows with, family, Mother, Father, Child....and 
those without a mother and father.
The weasley's are a somewhat traditional family, mother says home, dad 
works, they have a bunch of kids. The Malfoy's also purebloods, seem 
to have the same system, father seems to be in charge from what we 
have seen so far. Well, one might argue the point with the Weasley's 
as to who is in charge, but by Arthur working, he is the breadwinner, 
and theirfor head of house...I suppose one can argue that fact with 
me..but anyway.

The Weasley's also are pureblood, so, not all pureblood's are in 
slytherin, Now I know, some of you are going to correct me, probably 
with canon, someone said..yes I know, that being a pureblood is a 
farce, no real wizard anymore is actually a pureblood. To get right 
down to it, no wizard anywhere, has ever actually been pureblood. If I 
remember correctly, the story based Merlin was born of a nun seduced 
by an evil spirit, though, I very seriously doubt JKR is putting that 
in her childrens book, though his name is used quite a lot, and that 
is just the facts of the story Merlin, again, I didn't make it up.

The roles to me seem very traditional, you might even take some of the 
teachers as example. Dumbledore is in charge, McGonagall is second to 
him at Hogwarts, again, keeping the traditional role of Male in 
charge, female as the backup. OK, that might be taking it a bit too 
far, but it is how the school is run, I didn't make it that way.

Again, Head of Houses, Snape/male, Flitwick/male, McGonagal/female, 
Sprout/female, ok, no, I'm not saying there hooked up! (laughs) I'm 
saying, you again, have an balance, two of each. I don't know if it 
was always this way, but, it is what we are most aware of as far as 
storyline goes.

I don't think there is going to be a flood in the books and everyone 
is going to walk on the ark two by two, its just a noticable and very 
real thing I see in the books. The woman have their role, and the men 
also have theirs, is that gender bias, or whatever someone might say 
about it or my opinon....I don't know really.

Are the books lacking in gender related topics,and has JKR made a 
world where women and men are exactly the same, I don't think so, of 
course, one can disagree with me on that, but, I see that, their is a 
very real role that the men and women play in this story....generally 
its just the fact of life, the story is reflecting reality, again, I 
didn't make the laws of nature so don't blame me for it, or for 
thinking it.

Though, you can blame me for my twisted since of humor, I still say 
Salizar pined after Rowena, dang it! How boring is it if they were all 
200 years old...and never even looked at each other once..that seems 
boring...I say they had a few arguments, and not just over what kids 
to let into school.
I'll bet Rowena told Salizar he's not putting his stinking pet 
basalisk in the castle, she told him better put the dang thing as far 
away from her as possible or she is going to chop out its eyes 
and....ok..again, my imagination is running away with me again.
"But Row...hes really a nice sort of snake."
"I told you, if you bring that thing into the castle, I'll not talk to 
you for a week!"

Ok, I'll stop now, I know my humor is bad.

KarentheUnicorn