Sirius and Remus - and how little we know about WW law
muscatel1988
cottell at dublin.ie
Fri Jun 24 17:56:25 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 131366
(vast snip)
> At what point did homosexual relationships become legal in the UK?
> Was Sirius being a "big rebel" not because he was playing the field,
> but because his relationship with another man was technically
> against the law?
(vast snip)
"In England and Wales, gay sex was legalized in 1967, for consenting
males aged over 21. Scotland followed in 1980, and Northern Ireland in
1982. The age of consent was lowered in 1994 from 21 to 18, and again
in 2000 to 16 in mainland Britain and 17 in Northern Ireland. This
last change gave it equal treatment with the heterosexual age of
consent." (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual)
That's the legal history for muggles at least, but there's at least
two complicating factors for R/S. The first is that we don't know
very much about how wizarding law differs from muggle law. The second
is that the legal situation doesn't necessarily provide an accurate
barometer of general social attitudes (to anything). And since
homosexual acts were only criminalised in the 19th C in the UK, it's
possible that the WW never had them at all.
To diverge a bit from the topic here, the first point brings up a
whole set of other issues which are directly or indirectly important
in the Potterverse, which basically concern the We don't, for example,
know how inheritance works, other than that it exists in some form
(Harry's inheritance from his parents, though he seems to have access
to it long before he would in the MW) - there's been so much
discussion about who gets Sirius's estate in this forum, but we don't
know for example whether the WW includes entailment (since JKR is such
an Austen fan, this wouldn't surprise me at all *).
Neither do we know much about the WW legal status of marriage: does
the WW recognise a muggle marriage? This one's of interest because of
TR's parents - she's referred to by TR as his "wife". But we don't
know whether there was a muggle wedding only (in which case the MW
would regard TR as legitimate) - would this have been regarded as
a "legal" marriage in WW terms? Or was there just a WW wedding, which
the WW would recognise, but which would leave TR as an illegitimate
child in MW terms, possibly then providing a reason justifiable in law
for shipping the child off to an orphanage. Of course, it's possible
in the Riddle case that this parents weren't married at all, and he's
rewriting history in using "wife".
And what does a WW wedding consist of, anyway? Who has the authority
to perform one? Is there WW divorce? Are the laws on consanguinity
different?
So many questions, and so little time left to answer them. I'm
betting that we'll get some insight into inheritance in HBP, but as
for the marriage issues, I doubt we'll ever know.
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* It's just occurred to me in thinking of entailment: who is Sirius's
closest male blood relative? His brother is dead and he has no
children, so the line would pass to his cousins. Bellatrix, Narcissa
and Andromeda are female, and Lucius isn't blood, which would mean
(squeak!) Draco. I confess that I haven't paid a lot of attention to
inheritance posts here - perhaps I should have. Crumbs!
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