The good Slytherin / Salazar (Ye Purebloods, Merlin was What!?)

[unicorn_72]

No: HPFGUIDX 131580


> 
> Alisha wrote:
> I'm still a little confused as to why you think it would only be 
the 
> women who might be forced to choose between love and family.  In 
> this situation, if a pureblood wizard fell in love with a 
muggleborn 
> witch (or just a muggle for that matter), he would also be forced 
to 
> make that decision.  There's no indication that if a wizard 
married 
> a muggleborn, their marriage would be tolerated because they are 
> male.  The idea of pureblood supremacy is not limited simply to 
the 
> marriage of witches, therefore it is not necessarily gender biased.

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:
Can't argue with you very much there, I suppose I am more apt to 
consider the female point of view, being a female. Though, 
generally, I tend to see boy's as wanting to be like their fathers, 
more so than I see girls wanting to be like their mothers, ok, so, I 
suppose one can aruge very much with me on that...but....I tend to 
take that point of view from my own family. My mother is one of 10 
children, and my example comes from those aunts and uncles, while 
most of the men wanted to be like grandpa, none of the women desired 
to just be a stay at home mom, like grandma was. So, maybe I 
shouldn't be using my own family as a reference.

 I was also just considering how much Draco appears to want to be 
like his father....and was using them as the pureblood perfection 
family. But, we really haven't seen his mother much yet to know what 
she things. The only scene I remember is the quiddich scene, and she 
didn't seem to be to thrilled to be there....did she ever even say 
anything at all???? I don't even remember her talking???

Meh, I am also, thinking more along the lines of an adult, and 
giving the adults qualities I would think they might have, if, the 
book was an adult book, instead of a children's book. I seriously 
don't think JKR is going to go into areas that would concern the 
things we are talking about, at least not to the degree to what we 
are talking about, or, what I'm thinking, so, basicly the point I 
think I'm trying to make is...really, meaningless since, it is a 
children's book and not an adult book.

> 
> Alisha:
> Regardless of how she managed to sway Lucius, she still exhibited 
> some level of power in the relationship.  Lucius did eventually 
give 
> in to her desires.

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:

Ah, so, I think you are saying, it does not matter how or why she 
has the power, just the fact that she has it is enough. Meh...thats 
the trouble with power though, one minute you got it, next your 
hiding in a snake hole somewhere.

 Though, I sorta was thinking, there may be more reasons why Draco 
is at Hogwarts than, mummy's wish for Draco to be at Hogwarts and 
complaine she didn't want her baby so far away. Cause, if he was not 
their, what little blond kid would Harry have as a winny little 
enemy. Has a feeling Daddy likes having Draco their, to write 
letters to tell daddy whats going on. Cause, I have a feeling, he 
trusts his son to tell him everything....doesn't feel so sure about 
Snape.

> 
> Alisha:
> That's true, but the "facts" you presented about the legend of 
> Merlin do not appear in Rowling's story, so there's no indication 
> that they are facts in her universe.

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:

Meh, well, I don't know all the Merlin legends...meh...I was basicly 
getting it from my own  head of how I remembered it as the only one 
I knew...and um...I though I said it didn't apear in the HP 
universe??? what did I say...hum...for that matter..what were we 
talking about...

Oh yea..gender bias...hum....Well, one person who might not have to 
worry to much about Gender bias is JKR...she just has to worry about 
US Adult Fan's picking her Book apart and looking for adult topics 
in a childrens book, that we can argue about.

So...its still open for debate I suppose, is there gender bias in 
the Wizardin World....hum...I'll say yes, That doesn't mean everyone 
is that way, I think we are both trying to be to black and white 
here. I think there are many who are bias, be it gender or 
otherwise, so I don't see JKR making a perfect world where women and 
men are equal, I see a world where some people are trying to do the 
right thing..and some people are trying to do bad things...and some 
people that don't know what the hell is going on. So, I suppose I 
was just trying to point out that in some cases there is gender 
bias, not that the whole wizarding world is screwed up..though..I 
can debate you on that to...I think its just as screwed as the 
muggle world.

KarentheUnicorn