Couple of questions after CoS reread

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Mar 4 14:44:45 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 125484


Alla said:
>>>I am a little bit bothered by "Albania" quote though. In the one I
cited [DD] seems to be quite sure that the question is not "who",
but "how". To me it seems to imply that Dumbledore knows exactly WHO
opened the Chamber. 

Dumbledore seems to think that Voldemort is in Albania.  So, does he 
know that Voldemort in Hogwarts or does he not?  <snip>  I don't 
know, to me the explanation that Dumbledore knew that Riddle
is back in Hogwarts seems likely enough, because Dumbledore does not
question "who".<<<


SSSusan:
DD knows, because of the year before, that Voldy is at some degree of 
ComingBackNess, but after Voldy fled at the end of the year, DD may 
well not know anything about the state Voldy is in, his strength or 
any other particulars.  

Because he's aware of what Voldy was able to accomplish the previous 
year, I think what DD knows or suspects is that it's Voldemort who's 
somehow behind the current attacks.  But I think he is genuinely 
perplexed about the HOW.  That is, I *don't* think DD has a clue that 
it's *Tom Riddle,* rather than Voldemort, who's behind the attacks.  

DD recognizes that the same thing is happening which happened when 
Tom was at Hogwarts, but I don't think he would have any reason to 
suspect a reincarnation of Tom, as opposed to a return of the current 
incarnation of Voldy.  


Valky said:
>>> First, I agree that DD was trying to find out how Riddle was in
Hogwarts this second time, and I also found it didn't sit well with
me that he didn't *find out* sooner, I was a regular user of The
Magic Dishwasher (See Fantasic Posts).<<<


SSSusan:
This is one of the reasons [along with his not knowing about the 
animagi & Marauders Map, if one believes that] that I don't think DD 
is as omniscient as many people seem to think he is.  As I said 
above, I do think DD was truly perplexed by this.  How common *is* 
leaving a memory of oneself in a diary, after all, I wonder??


Valky:
>>>Now lets put ourselves in DD shoes. One relatively omniescent
personage in a *very* big house with a *lot* of young muggleborns in
his care, two important objectives to achieve.
1. Find out how Riddle is doing it.
2. Make sure noone gets killed.
Which priority is highest?

Then we have Dumbledore coming down the stairs for a refill of hot
chocolate at the same moment. Well maybe. But then maybe he had some
of his silver instruments aligned to detect lone muggleborns roaming
the castle and was rushing downstairs after hearing the alarm bells.

So my theory, Dumbledore wasn't testing Harry. Harry just managed to
make himself very helpful. Dumbledore *was* trying to handle the
incedent himself, although he intuitively knew that Harry was on the
case and did all he could to leave behind some help for Harry.<<<


SSSusan:
Putting a strong emphasis on the "relatively" part of "relatively 
omniscient," I'd say I think you may be right, Valky.  DD may well 
have been taking steps to watch over muggleborns, even if they were 
imperfect steps.

I'm one of those who's argued that DD *did* set up the SS/PS 
challenges as an obstacle course of sorts, as a test for Harry.  In 
CoS, though, I don't think there was anything of this sort going on.  
I believe DD was genuinely perplexed about how Voldy [not believing 
it could be Tom Riddle] had reopened the Chamber.

Siriusly Snapey Susan










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