HP Conventional Wisdom Watch

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 30 03:37:56 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 126751


Hickengruendler:
 
I will only answer where I have some questions or disagree with you 
completely. Therefore consider every character where I don't answer 
as an "I agree".

Alla:

Yes, I will do the same thing.

  
Lupinlore:
 
SIRIUS BLACK:  Falling.  CW is that he is dead and will remain that 
way.
 
Hickengruendler: 
 
But we will see him again. JKR as good as told us so, when she said 
she couldn't tell. However, I hope he remains dead, and we will only 
see him shortly like Harry's parents in book 4 or 5. 


Alla:

Well, I hope he won't remain dead, but I do understand that the 
possibility of him coming back as fully alive is pretty slim. I do 
think though that we will see him not in the past, but in the 
present, coming back temporarily in some kind of spiritual form to 
help Harry. I think this possibility is rather strong, especially 
since  besides the quote Hickengruendler mentioned ( JKR said that 
she won't answer in what form we will see Sirius, because she does 
not want to incriminate herself ), JKR also said that mirror will 
play a role.



Lupinlore: 
HERMIONE GRANGER: Falling.  OOTP left many believing she badly 
needed a lesson in humility, if not a smack in the mouth.  Her 
efforts with SPEW are not popular among readers, and many think she 
is doomed to embarrassment.
 
Hickengruendler:

Yes, I agree partly with this. But I still hope she's proven right 
concerning SPEW in the end. I found Ron's view on this topic much 
more annoying. Hermione has to change her methods, but at least she 
realizes that something is wrong.

Alla:

SPEW is a VERY good example of how poor execution can turn me off 
VERY good intentions. I DO want Hermione to be right at the end in a 
sense that house elves will be free and being able to enjoy the 
freedom, but I am one of those who prior to Hermione being right 
want her to be smacked across her head and fall hard.

NO, Hermione, you can't trick someone into being free, you really, 
really can't. :)

Regardless of what happens to Hermione though ( whether she will be 
proven right or wrong), I seriously doubt that as member of the trio 
she is in any danger of fading into background.


Lupinlore:
GINNY WEASLEY: Rising.  Despite some distaste at her personality
shift in OOTP, she seems unlikely to fade.  Mark her as Gryffindor 
Chaser and the most likely candidate for Girlfriend-of-the-Boy-who-
Lived.
 
Hickengruendler:

Yeah, you are probably right. But I can't help myself, I find this 
character very boring. I hope book 6 will change it, but I currently 
so don't care what happens to her. 

Alla:

Agree with Lupinlore. Whatever happens to Ginny, I don't see her as 
fading either. I find her to be a lot of fun now. :) 
 
Lupinlore: 
LUNA LOVEGOOD: Mixed.  A favorite of JKR, and one of the few 
characters who seemed to connect with Harry at the end of Book V.  
However, indications are that among fans outside of internet 
circles, reaction has ranged from indifference to annoyance.

Hickengruendler:
 
Well, for what it's worth, I know three readers who are not in the 
internet circles, my mother, my aunt and one of my closest friends, 
and they all love Luna and my mother even said said she considers 
Luna to be the best character introduced after book 1.

Alla:

I think Luna has a great potential, but so far I need much more to 
really care about her. I mean I am pretty sure that JKR set her up 
to be right  about a great deal of things and probably  much to 
Hermione's annoyance, but I just don't feel Luna yet. :)

 

Lupinlore: 
DRACO MALFOY: Falling.  Expectations of a deepening of his 
character have been badly disappointed, and CW is that he is Most 
Likely to Take the Dark Mark.  On the other hand, he still has a 
committed group that see potential in him.

Alla:

I see potential in him all right. :) Path of Darkness all the way. :)



Lupinlore:
VOLDEMORT:  Falling.  Let's face it, he seems to be operating out 
of the Villain's Book of Cartoon Cliches.
 
Hickengruendler:
 
Yes, but I have some hopes for HBP. We definitely will learn more 
about his past, and that's never bad.


Alla:

Yes, Hickendruendler learning about character's past is never bad, 
but I am afraid that for me it is a little too late to ever consider 
Voldemort as compelling evil. We'll see, maybe I will change my mind 
in July.

Lupinlore:
REMUS LUPIN:  Falling.  His stature as a candidate for the HBP seems 
to have declined recently.  Pippin's theory of an ESE!Lupin so far
has few supporters, but the prominence of Dumbledore and Harry on 
the covers seems to work against the previously popular idea that he
would step up to be a paternal figure for Harry in the sixth book.  
Also his disappointing passivity in OOTP still grates on some 
people's nerves.


Alla:

I still hold hope for remus to get closer to Harry in HBP. I mean, I 
will be the first one to be happy if Dumbledore will become a real 
mentor for Harry, but you never know - the covers may just show the 
final moments of the book. That may leave some room for Remus during 
all year.

Just my opinion of course and great post, Lupinlore.


Alla












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