HP Conventional Wisdom Watch

kiricat2001 Zarleycat at aol.com
Wed Mar 30 13:48:25 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 126781


 
> Hickengruendler:
>  
> I will only answer where I have some questions or disagree with you 
> completely. Therefore consider every character where I don't answer 
> as an "I agree".
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Yes, I will do the same thing.

Marianne:

Chiming in to further confuse the attributions of who is saying 
what.. 
  
> Lupinlore:
>  
> SIRIUS BLACK:  Falling.  CW is that he is dead and will remain that 
> way.
>  
> Hickengruendler: 
>  
> But we will see him again. JKR as good as told us so, when she said 
> she couldn't tell. However, I hope he remains dead, and we will 
only 
> see him shortly like Harry's parents in book 4 or 5. 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Well, I hope he won't remain dead, but I do understand that the 
> possibility of him coming back as fully alive is pretty slim. I do 
> think though that we will see him not in the past, but in the 
> present, coming back temporarily in some kind of spiritual form to 
> help Harry. I think this possibility is rather strong, especially 
> since  besides the quote Hickengruendler mentioned ( JKR said that 
> she won't answer in what form we will see Sirius, because she does 
> not want to incriminate herself ), JKR also said that mirror will 
> play a role.
> 
Marianne:  

Alla and I are probably in the minority of hoping for some sort of 
resurrection, but I'm sure it won't happen.  My disagreement with 
Lupinlore's "falling" rating is based on JKR's insistence that Sirius 
had to die.  This implies that there is an important reason that this 
had to happen, and I hope she really means IMPORTANT.  Not to show 
Harry that death happens unexpectedly, not to push Harry farther 
along on the Hero's journey by removing one of his mentor figures, 
and not simply because, for some as yet unknown reason, the Black 
inheritance has to be put up for grabs.  OTOH, didn't JKR say at one 
point that "a fan of Harry's" will die in OoP, which led many of us 
to assume the death would be someone like Colin Creavy or Hagrid?  So 
sometimes the way she words her answers to interview questions may 
trip me up.
  
> 
> Lupinlore: 
> HERMIONE GRANGER: Falling.  OOTP left many believing she badly 
> needed a lesson in humility, if not a smack in the mouth.  Her 
> efforts with SPEW are not popular among readers, and many think she 
> is doomed to embarrassment.

Marianne: 
Agreed, although I found Hermione's quick-quote character assessments 
of various people to be even more annoying than her misguided, though 
well-meaning efforts on behalf of the elves.  
> 
> 
>  
> Lupinlore: 
> LUNA LOVEGOOD: Mixed.  A favorite of JKR, and one of the few 
> characters who seemed to connect with Harry at the end of Book V.  
> However, indications are that among fans outside of internet 
> circles, reaction has ranged from indifference to annoyance.
> 
> Hickengruendler:
>  
> Well, for what it's worth, I know three readers who are not in the 
> internet circles, my mother, my aunt and one of my closest friends, 
> and they all love Luna and my mother even said said she considers 
> Luna to be the best character introduced after book 1.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I think Luna has a great potential, but so far I need much more to 
> really care about her. I mean I am pretty sure that JKR set her up 
> to be right  about a great deal of things and probably  much to 
> Hermione's annoyance, but I just don't feel Luna yet. :)
> 
Marianne:  I felt Luna to be an almost forced creation at times.  It 
almost seemed that she was introduced to be the anti-Hermione, all 
ehtereal feelings and intuitiveness, rather than practical and 
logical.  I'm undecided.
> 
 
 
> Lupinlore:
> REMUS LUPIN:  Falling.  His stature as a candidate for the HBP 
seems 
> to have declined recently.  Pippin's theory of an ESE!Lupin so far
> has few supporters, but the prominence of Dumbledore and Harry on 
> the covers seems to work against the previously popular idea that he
> would step up to be a paternal figure for Harry in the sixth book.  
> Also his disappointing passivity in OOTP still grates on some 
> people's nerves.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I still hold hope for remus to get closer to Harry in HBP. I mean, 
I 
> will be the first one to be happy if Dumbledore will become a real 
> mentor for Harry, but you never know - the covers may just show the 
> final moments of the book. That may leave some room for Remus 
during 
> all year.
> 
Marianne: I'd label this more as lurking in the weeds. I don't 
believe in ESE!Lupin and I do trust that, since JKR has expressed her 
liking of Lupin, that he will come out of his passivity in some major 
way.  And, no, I don't think it will be as a father-mentor substitute 
for Harry now that Sirius is gone.  Which leads to another question:

If Lupin does suddenly play a more prominent, assertive role, do you 
think there will be readers that he's suddenly gone OOC, much the 
same way people seemed surprised by GirlPower!Ginny in OoP?

Marianne 







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