[HPforGrownups] Re: Lucius, Dobby and side #3 was:Lucius Malfoy's Ambition

[Lindsay]

No: HPFGUIDX 126844

> SSSusan:
> I agreed with almost everything you wrote up to this point, but here
> is where I differ.  I've never believed that Lucius' goal was to
> bring Voldy back.  I believe his goal was the other things you
> suggested -- discrediting DD, perhaps implicating a Weasley, killing
> a Mudblood or two, maybe getting a new headmaster who suits Lucius
> better.
> 
> But *if* the goal was to do something to help Voldy return so that
> he could brag about what he'd done to try to help him, then why
> DIDN'T he brag when he first had the chance, when he was called to
> the graveyard to meet the resurrected Voldy?
> 
> Some people have argued that anyone would've been too scared to have
> said that in that moment, but I disagree.  I think it'd be more
> human nature to protest and defend oneself with that, "But, Master,
> if you only knew what I'd attempted on your behalf...."

Lindsay:

I don't think it was Lucius's goal to actually bring Voldemort back
through Riddle - if he even knew about the diary's capability to do
such a thing - but rather to provide for his scapegoat when the time
came that he needed it.  Yea, I think that up until PS/SS, Lucius was
done with Voldemort in his mind.  There's only so many times you can
use that Imperio excuse, after all, before you have to start taking
the fall in society for your actions, and I think Lucius very well
skated the edge when Voldemort disappeared in Godric's Hollow.

Lucius didn't do it for any one reason - he had the potential to gain
in a lot of different ways.  Killing multiple birds with one stone
sort of thing.

But I think what prompted him to action was Snape telling him about
Quirrell!Mort, otherwise, why didn't he try something like this much
much sooner, during the ten years when Heroic!Harry would not have
been a problem?

And as for speaking up, Avery did and got Crucio'ed.  I don't think
Voldemort was quite in a receiving mood for their excuses at the time,
and they all knew it - I imagine this would have been something he
found out by-the-by.  Probably from Wormtail, actually, since he was
around for the whole thing, and Lucius probably did not directly tell
him.  Nor do I think Lucius would directly tell him, because then it
looks like a whiney excuse.  He would make sure that SOMEONE mentioned
it to Voldemort, though, when they recounted what had happened for the
past two years after PS/SS.

--Lindsay