Lucius, Dobby and side #3 (but more Lucius Malfoy's Ambition)

[nrenka]

No: HPFGUIDX 126871


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "thursday morning" 
<thursdaymorning at o...> wrote:

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> Nora thinks we are overestimating Lucius' skills citing a lack of
> subtlety and suggesting he is "shockingly, a genuinely devoted
> ideologue."  If Lucius is not as intelligent as he'd like to appear
> then I'd say she's exactly right.  All aspects of my theories about
> both Lucius and Dobby are dependant on his being intelligent as
> well as goal oriented.  If Nora is correct then Lucius is probably
> out of the game at this point.  We can probably take it as given
> that Dobby was working on his own as well.  However, relative
> intelligence levels aside, I don't see how Nora's theory
> accommodates Lucius' pride - the one characteristic of Lucius' I've
> never seen anyone argue didn't exist.

I see your argument about Lucius' pride and raise you one graveyard 
scene.  Lucius' pride is not strong enough that he refuses orders 
from Voldemort to do things, and the graveyard scene strikes me as 
very deliberately played on Voldemort's part to make people nervous 
in ways that strike at their weaknesses and tendencies.  Lucius is 
pretty obviously following orders in OotP, enough that he is on the 
team at the DoM and takes the fall for his boss; his social standing 
in society is now shot, which has got to impact his pride severely. 
(We know per interview that Fudge is out--and Lucius Malfoy is very 
publicly associated with Fudge, and the linkages between them of 
money and such are probably now exposed.  I don't see how, with 
Dumbledore's faction in the clear ascendency post-OotP, Lucius is 
going to be able to get off.  Get OUT of Azkaban and go back to the 
DEs, yes, but his public reputation has been destroyed in ways that 
are genuinely irrecoverable.  That's part of Draco's rage at the end 
of the book--Daddy is in jail and *everyone* knows it.)  Where has it 
ever been suggested that he has been too proud to follow his leader?

-Nora runs off to class for more fun with old books