Peter as Judas? (was: Christians in HP - in a purely historical way)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 128633

> > Tonks:
> > Good one.  Never thought of the silver hand in that way before. 
> > Could very well be that he is the Judas.  I have imagined it to 
be 
> > Ron at a later date.  But I do like your idea. Perhaps Peter 
meant 
> > his telling LV where the Potters were in the same way that Judas 
did 
> > with Jesus. That is, Judas was a Zealot (a political group 
> > advocating a violent takeover) and he thought that if he told 
where 
> > Jesus was it would force Jesus' hand to bring about the 
revolution.  
> > Judas did not understand that this was not the plan.  Judas 
never 
> > understood that it would not be a bloody war. When he realized 
how 
> > mistaken he was and what he had done he was overcome with 
remorse, 
> > after he got the 30 pieces of silver he went and gave it back to 
> > them. And then he went out and hung himself.  So it would fit 
more 
> > than I realized before.  Perhaps that is what Peter did.  If 
that is 
> > the case then I will have to change my prediction about Ron.  
> 
> 
> Sophierom:
> 
> Interesting! I never realized that about Judas (my understanding of
> Biblical stories and theology is quite limited!).  So are you
> suggesting, then, that Peter Pettigrew was more of a zealot than a
> coward? That somehow he thought turning to LV would spark some 
sort of
> confrontation? (Or were you giving that information as background
> about zealotry to explain Judas's decision to hang himself?) 
> 
> I can't see Peter Pettigrew as a zealot, especially given his own
> admission of fear in the Shrieking Shack 

I'd say your understanding of "Biblical Stories" is adequate. There 
is nothing in the New Testament to suggest that Judas was a 
revolutionary. In fact there is very little known about him at all, 
aside from his being "one of the twelve" and the traitor. One 
evangelist out of the four mentions also the sum paid and a suicide 
committed. 

However, I would be first to agree, that Judas's being a zealot is a 
more likely contingency than Pettigrew's being a revolutionary and 
committing his act of betrayal for the higher purpose. An 
established view on Judas as a filthy traitor would have suited 
Pettigrew-Judas analogy far better than any apocryphal one.  

a_svirn