School year system in the UK/Gluttony

[Marcelle]

No: HPFGUIDX 128748

In message 128733, Tonks wrote:
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I don't know how the boarding school system is in the UK. In the US 
Junior High starts with the 7th grade and it would make more sense 
to me that a boarding school would also begin then instead of with 
the 6th grade. But maybe the UK is different. Does the UK consider 
6th grade to be part of secondary education, or primary??
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> Geoff:
> > In message 127769, where we were discussing the transfer age at 
> Hogwarts, I wrote:
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> So, in the UK, schools following the First/Middle/High pattern can 
> change either at Year 4/Year 9 or Year 4/Year 8 while LEAs who 
stuck  with the Ibfant/Junior/Secondary scheme change at Year 4/Year 
7.
> Interestingly, although Hogwarts follows the 11+ transfer age, 
before the UK started introducing the Middle School concept (as 
outlined above), many Public schools did transfer at 13+ and 
therefore didn't match the state system.
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> A further thought. Is the US Grade numbering slightly different to 
> the UK Year? Harry /did/ start Hogwarts in what today is Year 7.
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celletiger here:
I have often wondered about the Hogwarts levels and find the 
explanations from list members of the British boarding school system 
helpful to make correlations to the US system.  So thanks, y'all.

To answer Geoff, Harry would have begun Hogwarts in the US 6th 
Grade - still grammar (elementary) school.  
Where I'm from, there are no boarding schools and there is no such 
thing as middle school: We have grammar school from kindergarten (5 
years old) through 8th Grade (13 years old) and upon graduating from 
8th Grade, we go to high school for 4 years (9th-12th Grade 14-18 
years old).  There has been an (unfortunate, IMHO) trend in some 
schools to begin high school with 8th grade instead of 9th grade.  

It always seemed strange to me that Hogwarts would include 11 year 
olds with 17 and 18 year olds...I'm not an educator, but certainly 
some things that are appropriate for older teenagers are not 
appropriate for 11 year olds?  They all share meals together, walk 
the castle halls, share a common room...its simply foreign to me 
that Hogwarts throws the students all together.

celletiger, who got through 17 years of Catholic education


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