Lucius & the diary (was: Voldemort's recruitment)

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Sun May 15 18:38:40 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 128962


> Carol:
<snip>:

My hypothesis is that Lucius Malfoy's
> father, who would have been about Tom Riddle's age and a Slytherin,
> was one of the close friends to whom Tom revealed his new name and 
his
> heritage as Heir of Slytherin. These friends would have known that 
Tom
> was releasing the basilisk, and being his devoted followers and
> believers in the pureblood ethic, would have approved of what he 
was
> doing. Later, before Tom disappeared to consort with "the worst of 
our
> kind" to learn the secrets of immortality, I think he left his 
diary
> (and possibly most of his worldly possessions except his wand) with
> his friend Malfoy, the future father of Lucius. 


a_svirn:
I basically agree with your reasoning, but why should we suppose 
that it was Malfoy's father? It could just as well have been his 
mother... Just think of the possibilities! 

Carol: 
> I'm guessing that Malfoy Sr. was among the first to become a Death
> Eater after Voldemort returned and that he was one of the few who 
knew
> Voldemort's true identity 

a_svirn:
Your premise is then, that DE were those who followed Voldemort. Yet 
didn't JKR say that DE has been around for some time? They called 
differently – the Knights of Walpurgis – but essentially were the 
same bad guys. In which case it might have been other way round – LV 
followed his older friends (Lucius's father, for instance). And 
that's how he was able to dabble in the Dark Arts while still at 
school. It's not like they are in the curriculum. (Well, we don't 
know what the curriculum looked like half century ago, but I still 
doubt that they taught Dark Arts). 

Carol:
> Anyway, I seriously doubt that Lucius's chief motive was to get the
> Weasleys into trouble; it was just a felicitous little coincidence
> that Ginny Weasley happened to be on hand to be the recipient of 
the
> diary. 

a_svirn:

I don't believe it was a coincidence. Muggle Protection Act was 
Arthur's brainchild and it started to become a serious nuisance for 
Lucius. He was deliberately trying to compromise Weasley. 

Carol:

The scenes with Dobby and Draco strongly suggest that Lucius 
> wanted to kill or injure Muggleborns. He almost certainly wanted to
> disgrace Dumbledore and engineer his removal. He also seems to have
> wanted to hurt Harry, though how that was possible if the basilisk
> killed only Muggleborns is hard to say. Maybe he thought that with
> Diary!Tom controlling the monster, it would change its target once 
Tom
> knew who Harry was and that he was in the school. 

a_svirn:

Then why didn't he inform Tom Riddle about Harry's existence? He 
couldn't have known that Ginny was having a crush on Harry and would 
be boring Tom with tales of his heroic deeds, could he? 


Carol:
And I don't rule out
> a desire on Lucius' part to bring Voldemort back to life as a 
teenage
> boy. If Vapormort were to possess his own teenage body, he would be
> twice as powerful as before, not to mention youthful and beautiful
> instead of snakelike--and indebted to his loyal servant, Lucius 
Malfoy
> for this glorious state of affairs. 

a_svirn:

Lucius seems much better off without LV grateful or otherwise. It is 
always nicer to be a master than a slave. 








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