Kreacher

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 128974


> 
> Tonks:
> Maybe DD takes Kreacher to Hogwarts. If he is under service there 
> cleaning the kitchen or something he can't get out to tell any 
> secrets. Course he could have his memory altered too. Or maybe 
> Mad-Eye took *care* of things and we will see ol' Kreacher on the 
> wall.
> 
> Tonks_op

bboyminn:

I've already commented several times that I think Dumbledore
'dispatched', to put it politely, Kreacher and his head is now hanging
on the wall with his ancestors. Kreacher is just to volatile and
unstable to keep around.

Your idea of Dumbledore taking Kreacher on at Hogwart is interesting,
but I do see a few /logistical/ problems. First the wizard/elf
relationship is not like true slavery. Elves are not captured in the
wild and forced against their will into the service of their Master;
Elves willingly enter service and eagerly serve. 

So, I have to wonder and doubt whether Dumbledore could just take
Kreacher to Hogwarts and say 'you work here now'. It seems that any
potential Master must ask and Kreacher must to consent to work, it is
that /consent/ that creates the magic that binds him to his service. I
have stated in the past that I believe the strongest force holding an
elf in his 'slavery' is the bond of his own word which is further
bound by many centuries of proud and honorable elfin tradition.

So, in my view, for Dumbledore to engage Kreacher in the services of
Hogwarts, he would somehow have to convince Kreachere to come
voluntarily. While I can imagine that it is possible, I can't imagine
what Dumbledore might have said to convince Kreacher. At least, I
can't think of anything beyond 'server me or die'. 

I'm curious if you have projected a scenario in which Dumbledore talks
Kreacher into consenting to work at Hogwarts?

Truth be told, even though I believe Kreacher is dead, I don't want
him to be dead. I would love for someone to come up with some way for
Kreacher to continue to live in a way that he is not a deadly threat
to the Order or anyone else. It would certainly be fun if he lived so
he could continued to annoy the heck out of everyone, but I see
Kreacher as a dangerous and deadly problem that must be delt with. I
would love for Hermione to woo him with kindness, or Dumbledore to
turn him with logic, but I just don't see that happening. 

I'm open to any alternatives, very open, but for the moment, I just
don't see how Kreacher can be allowed to live.

Steve/bboyminn