Kreacher

[huntergreen_3]

No: HPFGUIDX 128997

bboyminn wrote:
> I see
> Kreacher as a dangerous and deadly problem that must be delt with. I
> would love for Hermione to woo him with kindness, or Dumbledore to
> turn him with logic, but I just don't see that happening.

Kemper replied:
>>If Dumbledore is so free with killing, why wouldn't he just kill all
the DE's that are in the 'public' like Lucius, Crabbe and Goyle Srs.,
et. al.? That would greatly decrease potential harm to the Order, and
to the WW/RW public. [snip] Again, Dumbledore is a man of compassion
and not a man of vengence.<<

Rebecca:
I think you might have misunderstood what bboyminn was getting at. 
Kreacher was privy to secret Order business, including where their 
headquarters is, and which witches and wizards are members (including 
*Snape*). He remained inside Grimmauld Place (mostly) and kept the 
Order's secrets because Sirius told him to and the magic that binds 
him to his master keeps him from disobeying. That's all well and 
good, except that Sirius is dead now, and had no children (that we 
know of), and Kreacher refuses to serve Tonks, and therefore would go 
to the next family member which would be Bellatrix or Narcissa, and 
with Sirius dead, he could tell them whatever he wanted. He has 
already shown himself to be openly devious and against the Order's 
cause and helped to trick Harry into going to the DoM which would 
have gotten Harry killed if the plan worked correctly. 

My question is here, what other solution is there to the Kreacher 
dilemma other than killing him? Personally, I think they should have 
given him clothes when they first took over Grimmauld Place, he was 
never to be trusted (his reaction to that would have been his own, if 
it killed him it was not directly their fault, because that wasn't 
the intention...it may not have killed him anyway, he could have had 
the freedom to go off and replace Dobby at the Malfoy household). 
They can't do that now, its already too late. I hate to think of 
Dumbledore (or anyone in the Order) killing him, but they have to at 
this point. If they don't and word gets out about the location of the 
Order and the fact that Snape is a member of said Order (and anything 
else harmful that Kreacher picked up on), horrible things could 
happen that are worse than the life of one house-elf who already 
conspiraced to get people killed. 

Killing Kreacher is a lot different than just going on a rampage 
against known free DEs. Notice that Dumbledore *does* do something 
with them the moment he *can* (that is, he halts them in the DoM and 
gets them arrested after they committ crimes...he can't do anything 
if they haven't committed a crime). Kreacher is harder to deal with. 
For one thing, his offense was less clear-cut and harder to quantify 
and there's the sticky situation of the Order haboring Sirius, 
official channels aren't going to work here. It makes me wonder what 
power the owners of house-elfs have over the elves. Do they just have 
the power to fire them? What is up with the heads on the walls of 
Grimmauld Place? It was mentioned at some point in OotP that Kreacher 
wanted to end up on the wall, if that's true maybe they should 
fulfill his wish (cold, I know, but Dumbledore has painted himself 
into a corner with the Kreacher situation).

What do you think Dumbledore will do with Kreacher?


-Rebecca