Kreacher

[kempermentor]

No: HPFGUIDX 129005

> bboyminn wrote:
> > I see
> > Kreacher as a dangerous and deadly problem that must be delt 
with. I
> > would love for Hermione to woo him with kindness, or Dumbledore to
> > turn him with logic, but I just don't see that happening.
> 
> Kemper replied:
> >>If Dumbledore is so free with killing, why wouldn't he just kill 
all
> the DE's that are in the 'public' like Lucius, Crabbe and Goyle 
Srs.,
> et. al.? That would greatly decrease potential harm to the Order, 
and
> to the WW/RW public. [snip] Again, Dumbledore is a man of compassion
> and not a man of vengence.<<
> 
> Rebecca:
> I think you might have misunderstood what bboyminn was getting at. 
> Kreacher was privy to secret Order business,

Kemper now:
No.  I fully understood what bboyminn was getting at: Kreacher is a 
threat and should be eliminated (if he's not dead already by 
Dumbledore's wand or order).   I can see where killing him would be 
easy and possibly necessary, what I don't see is Dumbledore making 
the killing of Kreacher okay which is what bboyminn was originally 
suggesting.   I CAN see another member of the order execute Kreacher 
without DD's authority (Mad Eye and Snape come to mind and that would 
be darkly funny to see the two accidentally stumble upon each other 
at HQ to kill Kreacher.)  
 
Back to Rebecca:
> Killing Kreacher is a lot different than just going on a rampage 
> against known free DEs. Notice that Dumbledore *does* do something 
> with them the moment he *can* (that is, he halts them in the DoM 
and 
> gets them arrested after they committ crimes...he can't do anything 
> if they haven't committed a crime). Kreacher is harder to deal 
with. 

Kemper again:
Killing Kreacher is no different from killing known DEs.  They are 
both dangerous to the Order, to the Wizarding World and to the Muggle 
World. 
I did notice that Dumbledore *does* something in the DoM.  Notice 
that he didn't kill any of them though he could have and that they, 
the DEs, have committed heinous and, mostly, unpunished crimes for a 
long time; some of those crimes would result in government sanctioned 
executions in few (or one?) first world nations. 

Again, what I'm saying is that DD would never allow Kreacher's 
execution.  If Kreacher is to be executed, it will be by another 
member behind DD's back.

Hope my ideas are clearer,
Kemper