Kreacher - workable solutions?

kempermentor kempermentor at yahoo.com
Tue May 17 04:26:54 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129047

bboyminn:
Again, regarding Dumbledore's treatment of the captured DE's, I don't
think that Dumbledore see it as his job to be judge, jury, and
executioner; he rightly turns the matter over to the authorities. The
Kreacher situation can't, in my opinion, be put in the same class as
the DE's.


Kemper now:
If you see the necessity for Dumbledore to execute Kreacher, you see 
Dumbledore as judge and jury.  Dumbledore has reason to kill 
Bellatrix in the Death Chamber, as he witnessed her kill Sirius.  But 
he doesn't send a killing curse at Bellatrix as she deflected 
whatever spell he sent towards her (there's no defense against a 
killing curse).

Why doesn't Dumbledore kill any of the DE's in the DoM?  Does he 
trust and believe in the Ministry's due process for them?  I don't 
think so, but I think that he trusts and believes in redemption.  


bboyminn earlier:
This is war; war by it's very nature is a
failing of mankind. Men are force to kill or be kill, forced by dark
and terrible circumstances to do things that go against their good
nature, but do them they must.


Back to Kemper:
Military rules of engagement allow for Dumbledore to open fire (use a 
wand and kill) any and all of the enemy (Death Eaters, some of whom 
are almost as terrible as Voldemort) in a just manner because the 
enemy (DEs) attacked civilians (children) and killed a fellow soldier 
(Sirius).  But he Dumbledore chooses not to kill even though he has 
every military right to do so (and it would probably be a strategic 
tactic as well: elimination of future violence.)

The workable alternative for Kreacher are:

1. Snape poisons Kreacher (to protect himself?),
2. Mad Eye AKs him (to protect the order),
3. Phineas' orders Kreacher to commit suicide (he listens to Mrs. 
Blacks portrait
 why not Phineas),
4. Kreacher escapes when he feels the magical bind to the family lift 
upon Sirius' death (do we actually think he'll stick around?).


 I like the first one or the last one.  The first one for even more 
Snape conspiracy (ESE? or ESGood?).  The last for my little 
prediction: Dobby joins the Order and needs his equivalent on the 
other side to fight during the storming of Hogwarts in book 7.  You 
heard it hear first


Are those workable alternatives?

Kemper







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