Dumbledore's Hypocrisy/Sirius and Kreacher

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri May 20 19:42:37 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129223

Alla: 
Of course we will never know, since Sirius did not treat him
kindly,  but I absolutely disagree that he did it because of
prejudice  towards House Elves. I would say because of hatred 
towards his family and anything connected to it.

Pippin:
It's the "anything connected to it" that's the problem. Being
connected is not a sin, but Sirius treats it as one.

Alla:

Being connected to something Dark simply by association is not a 
problem, true, but you know the saying " tell me who your friends 
are and I can describe what kind of person you are".

I think its gist applies to Kreacher, sort of. Of course, if he was 
free, his personality could ahve undergone different development or 
not.

Just look at Dobby. He was serving dark household and his 
personality is so not dark.

Am I making sense? I am of firm believe that house elves should be 
freed, if that is what they want , BUT I don't think that Kreacher 
is a good being simply because he was enslaved. 

  

Alla wrote earlier:

Huh? Could you explain  please in  more details why Dumbledore 
had  to say that now and could not wait later? Is Harry in danger 
of  treating ANY house elf the way Sirius treated Kreacher? I agree
with  the earlier sentiments that Harry is  the one who treats house
elves  as equals ( much more so than Hermione, IMO)

Pippin:
First, Dumbledore might not be alive in a few months to say it. If 
Fawkes had been a  little slower, Dumbledore would have been dead
already.  Voldemort used to be too afraid to attack him -- no more.
 
Meanwhile, Harry needs to be warned about the danger  of holding 
his weaker enemies  in contempt...
 
<snips quote>
 
It is not that if Harry  respects  Draco's feelings, Draco will be
kind in  return. It's that only by respecting Draco's feelings can
Harry have any understanding of what Draco feels. Only so 
can he be prepared  for what Draco might choose to do.


Alla:

Erm. Thanks for the explanation, but I think you are giving 
Dumbledore a bit too much credit in speaking allegorically. Are you 
saying that when Dumbledore was talking to grieving Harry about 
misdeeds of his Godfather, he was actually warning him about Draco?

Wouldn't be easier for Dumbledore to just say something like ... 
Harry do NOT underestimate Draco, ever. I would also speculate that 
if Dumbledore said that Harry may have been a bit more perceptive  
to the warning, IF that is indeed what Dumbledore had in mind.

I still think that when Dumbledore was talking about Sirius, Sirius 
was  the person Dumbledore was really talking about.

If it is so, I think that Harry could go without at least that part 
of Dumbledore speech at all.

Just my opinion of course,

Alla






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