Dumbledore's Hypocrisy
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri May 20 19:18:24 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 129221
> Alla:
> Personally I feel that Sirius' feelings towards Kreacher were
> deserved, that is IF he was Sirius equal. Kreacher was loyal to
> House of Black and hated Sirius because Sirius had no feelings of
> loyalty towards that House.
>
Pippin
But Sirius refused to think of Kreacher as his equal, and that was
not deserved.
Alla:
> I think that Kreacher would not stop to hurt Sirius even IF he was
> treated with kindness, because his feelings of loyallty towards
> Sirius' mother were too strong ( just speculating here).
Pippin:
Very true. But the irony is that if Sirius had freed Kreacher,
Kreacher could have gone anywhere, but since he was still
enslaved, he could only go to another member of the Black family.
So in a way, Sirius determined that he would be betrayed.
Alla:
> Of course we will never know, since Sirius did not treat him
kindly, but I absolutely disagree that he did it because of
prejudice towards House Elves. I would say because of hatred
towards his family and anything connected to it.
Pippin:
It's the "anything connected to it" that's the problem. Being
connected is not a sin, but Sirius treats it as one.
> Pippin:
> But in any case, Dumbledore's safety is at end; Voldemort knows
> now that his fear of Dumbledore was needless, and he may be back
to finish the job at any moment. The choice is not between the very,
very wrong time and a possible better one -- it's a choice between
the wrong time and no time at all.
>
> Alla:
>
> Huh? Could you explain please in more details why Dumbledore
had to say that now and could not wait later? Is Harry in danger of
treating ANY house elf the way Sirius treated Kreacher? I agree
with the earlier sentiments that Harry is the one who treats house
elves as equals ( much more so than Hermione, IMO)
Pippin:
First, Dumbledore might not be alive in a few months to say it. If
Fawkes had been a little slower, Dumbledore would have been dead
already. Voldemort used to be too afraid to attack him -- no more.
Meanwhile, Harry needs to be warned about the danger of holding
his weaker enemies in contempt...
"Well, I'm terrified now," said Harry sarcastically. "I s'pose Lord
Voldemort's just a warm-up act compared to you three--"
Draco and Goyle have just lost their fathers at Harry's hands, but
Harry never considers that they might feel this loss just as
acutely as he would or that even though they are weaker than he is,
they might still harm him. Harry *has* let his guard down --
he just doesn't realize it.
It is not that if Harry respects Draco's feelings, Draco will be
kind in return. It's that only by respecting Draco's feelings can
Harry have any understanding of what Draco feels. Only so
can he be prepared for what Draco might choose to do.
Pippin
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