Guardian Dumbledore (was: Re: Dumbledore's Hypocrisy/Sirius and Kreacher)

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat May 21 22:07:04 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129286

>>Betsy
>You're exaggerating a bit about Harry's and Hermione's danger in 
PoA. (Some movie contamination perhaps?).<
 
>>Alla:
>Nope, no movie contamination , but thank you for asking. :-)<

>>Betsy:
<snip>
>Harry and Hermione were in very little danger that night, and I 
believe Dumbledore realized what had already been accomplished by 
time-traveling students.  All that was left was freeing Sirius.  
Hardly a dangerous task when you've got a hippogriff on hand.<

>>Alla:
>Um, I really don't want to get into mechanics of Time travel 
posting, but no, I think that Harry and Hermione were in a great deal 
of danger . Remember?
>"you must not be seen. Miss Granger, you know the law - you know 
what is at stake... You - must- not-be -seen" - PoA, p.393.<
<snip>

Betsy:
Ah, you were talking about the danger of time travel.  I thought you 
were talking about the danger of werewolves, hence the question about 
movie contamination.  But remember, Hermione has been time traveling 
for the entire school year, with permission from the Ministry.  It 
can't be *that* dangerous if the government is willing to allow a 
third year student a Time-Turner.  Plus, Hermione is well aware of 
the dangers of being seen.  She hints to Harry about what terrible 
things can occur when time travelers are spotted. (I imagine the 
dangers were driven home to her before McGonagall handed over the 
Time-Turner.)  

I think the reason Dumbledore stresses that Harry and Hermione must 
not be seen is that he knew what temptations they'd face.  Harry 
especially would be tempted to run out and grab Pettigrew, and 
Dumbledore reiterates to Hermione that the rules of time travel 
*must* be followed.  And Hermione does make sure Harry follows the 
rules.  Again, I don't see evidence of Harry and Hermione facing 
*mortal* danger.

<snip of magical contract stuff, 'cause I agree with Gerry's post 
here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129259 >

>> Betsy:
>And since you've conceded that Dumbledore does not equal God 
hopefully you'll cut him a break here. <g> < 

>>Alla:
>Actually, when I concede the point, I clearly state so. I did 
nothing of the sort here. :-)
>I said that Dumbledore was not G-d, but this point was not debated, 
so there was nothing to concede, IMO.<

Betsy:
Eek, I was joking with the "concedes" comment (hence the <g>). Sorry 
that didn't come across.  My main point was in GoF, Dumbledore's 
biggest mistake is trusting fake!Moody, but since everyone was fooled 
by fake!Moody hopefully you'll give him a bit of a pass there.

Betsy






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