Dumbledore's Hypocrisy/Sirius vs. Kreacher

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Tue May 24 15:15:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129398

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sophierom" <sophierom at y...>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > But, from the very beginning, Dumbledore did see Kreacher's 
betrayal
> > as a real possibility:  "I warned Sirius WHEN we adopted twelve
> > Grimmauld Place as our headquarters that Kreacher must be treated 
> > with kindness and respect.  I ALSO told him that Kreacher could be
> > dangerous to us" (Ootp, Am. ed., 832 - emphasis mine).  
> 
> <snip> 
> The quote you mentioned is Dumbledore essentially saying "I told you
> so" well after the fact, when the one person who could definitely
> confirm that statement is dead.

Shanoah:
 
> Not that I neccessarily think Dumbledore is a habitual liar. I just
> wanted to point out that the case could be argued...

Finwitch:

It could. What Sirius told them of Kreacher: 'He's been alone too 
long, taking mad orders from my mother's portrait.' This, I believe, 
goes along with Dumbledore saying how ignorance and neglect can be 
*worse* than outright hatred. And this  particular ignorance was 
something Sirius could not help. Couldn't, because he was either in 
Azkaban or on-the-run for something he did not do.

Curious, though, how *Harry* appears to prefer being ignored to 
outright anger (look at his reaction when Snape gives him silent 
treatment: Harry considers it a *relief*).

I suppose the arguement between Sirius/Dumbledore had to do with 
loner's madness. Sirius spent 12 years alone with Dementors, and saw 
several people going insane and killing themselves. The items having 
to do with Sirius' family are the source of Kreacher's madness - and 
he's *dwelling* in it. Do you know Sirius wasn't instinctively doing 
whatever he could to keep himself (and Kreacher) from dwelling in the 
past and live on? As I see it, Sirius was fighting against insanity, 
AGAIN, which is why he tried to change the environment etc. He would 
have been better if Harry had been there, I think. Just for 
*company*. Kreacher was someone who was actively fighting to KEEP 
insanity, opposing Sirius in everything...
 
Finwitch






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