Possessing the possessor, not Horcrux!Harry

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 142431

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at y...>
wrote:
> Carol responds:
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> ...edited...
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> I see absolutely no reason why Harry should be a Horcrux, and
> consequently, no reason for Harry to sacrifice himself to save
> the WW. All he needs is some way to use the power of Love to 
> destroy Voldemort. ...
> 
> ...edited...
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> What he [Voldemort] ...transferred to Harry, as we're told by 
> Dumbledore in CoS, is some of his *powers* (plural) in the 
> sense of the magical abilities that Harry now shares with LV
> ...But clearly his (Harry's) ability to speak Parseltongue is 
> not part of this genetic magical inheritance: that specific 
> power (magical ability) is acquiredfrom Voldemort--not a part 
> of Voldemort's soul, ..., but a part of Voldemort's genetic 
> inheritance from *his* parents, ...
> 
> ...edited..
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> But what about the one power that remained to Voldemort after 
> he was vaporized, the one power he could wield without a wand? 
> Suppose that Harry has acquired the power of Possession along 
> with the ability to speak Parseltongue ...?
> 
> We know that Voldemort can no longer possess Harry, but what if
> Harry possesses Voldemort? What better way for the Love Harry
> supposedly represents to enter Voldemort's mind, destroying him
> ...? And how fitting for Harry to turn Voldemort's own powers 
> against him without stooping to casting an Unforgiveable Curse.
> 
> And instead of being a passive instrument of destruction who must
> himself be destroyed, Harry can actively wield the power of
> possession as no one else in the WW can.
> 
> Carol, hoping that this idea provides a viable alternative to Harry
> the Horcrux

bboyminn:

Responding with acknowledgements to both Carol and to CH3ed (M.
Thitathan).

Here I thought I was the only one who believed Harry had the power of
Possession. I've thought this for a long time, but the book doesn't
really support it; that I can remember, none of the books have even
dropped the slightest clue that Harry might have this ability.

Further, how would Harry even find out he has this power? How would he
even know to apply it, if he hasn't previously discovered it. Even
more so, all his resources for discovering the power of possession
have dried up. Sirius is dead, Dumbledore is dead, if not them, the
who? I can't imagine Ron or Hermione suddenly saying to Harry, 'What
do you say Harry, see if you can possess me'. I suppose Lupin could
come forward in the story and take over the role as wise mentor and
friend, but again, what on earth would ever make Lupin think that
Harry could possess anyone?

Still, I believe it and I always have. I could picture the final
struggle between Harry as a test of wills very much like the
Brother-Wand-connection in GoF. In the Final Battle, Voldemort has
Harry down and weak, as a last gesture of dominance or perhaps to gain
the upper hand in battle or perhaps to protect himself as he did in
OotP, Voldemort possesses Harry. Harry fights the possession with
every ounce of strength he has, he is determined to not be controlled
and to win, even though the odds are massively against him. In the
struggle to throw off Voldemort's possession, Harry accidently turns
the tables and possesses Voldemort. Now we have a true test of wills,
purely good against evil, and no room for outside intervention, no
room for the cavalry to come riding over the hill to save the day, no
place for fancy spellwork or curses. It's Harry and Voldemort, good
and evil, locked in a struggle to the end. 

As an odd side note: Try to imagine what that would look like; Harry
and Voldemort struggling to possess each other. First Voldemort enters
Harry, and we see Harry struggling against the invasion. Then Harry
takes control, and where we once saw Harry, we now see Voldemort. Then
Voldemort gets control, and we see Harry, then Voldemort, then Harry,
then Voldemort again. Pretty freaky scene if you ask me.

Of course, this doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of Harry
sacrificing himself. I could fit this in very nicely with my
speculation that the final battle will occur in front of the Veiled
Archway of Death. I could speculate that while Harry may dominate and
possess Voldemort, that doesn't solve the problem. Somehow Voldemort
has to be destroyed. I could picture Harry taking control and dragging
himself and Voldemort along with him through the Veiled Archway. 

Extending my Veiled Archway thoughts, I'm not totally convinced that
if Harry goes through the Veil, he will not come out. We've discussed
this before and there is mythology for people going 'beyond the Veil'
and returning. I could live with Voldemort being dragged down to Hell
by the spirits of those he killed, meanwhile, Harry meets Sirius, his
parents, and Dumbledore and after a few tearful hugs, his parents tell
him it's not his time and that he has to go back, back to the land of
the living. 

I know that was a lot of talking to say not much more than 'I agree',
but I do agree and I always have. Despite no hints in the books, I've
alway believe we would discover that this was a power that Harry had.

Don't know what it's worth, but there it is.

Steve/bboyminn