Possessing the possessor, not Horcrux!Harry

Jen Reese stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Nov 3 00:01:06 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142443

> bboyminn:
> I could picture the final struggle between Harry as a test of
> wills very much like the Brother-Wand-connection in GoF. In the
> Final Battle, Voldemort has Harry down and weak, as a last gesture
> of dominance or perhaps to gain the upper hand in battle or
> perhaps to protect himself as he did in OotP, Voldemort possesses
> Harry. Harry fights the possession with every ounce of strength he
> has, he is determined to not be controlled and to win, even though 
> the odds are massively against him. In the struggle to throw off
> Voldemort's possession, Harry accidently turns the tables and
> possesses Voldemort. Now we have a true test of wills, purely good
> against evil...<snip>

Jen: Your thoughts reminded me of an excellent post by annemehr 
about this issue (link below). She made a good case that Harry was 
on the 'threshold' of possessing Voldemort in his dreams (i.e. the 
snake biting Arthur, seeing Voldemort in the mirror), but didn't 
take the step of forcing his will upon Voldemort's body, the final 
act for completely possessing him. 

With the alternative being Harry horcrux, the possession ability is 
growing on me ;). As Carol pointed out upthread, we're still waiting 
to see *powers* plural transferred from Voldemort, something else 
besides Parseltongue. I think the power of possession might also be 
a genetically inherited power found in the Slytherin bloodline, when 
you think about the connection between Morfin Gaunt and his snakes, 
and finding out Voldemort can possess Nagini. I think it might be 
important to JKR's plot that the powers passed were genetic and not 
learned powers, that the transfer did involve an actual 'bit of 
Voldemort', and happened in reverse when Voldemort took Harry's 
blood.

As an alternative, Carol's thoughts have me wondering about another 
possibility:

Carol:
> What other distinctive powers does Voldemort possess that could
> have been passed to Harry at Godric's Hollow? Legilimency, which
> Harry has acquired to some degree through the scar connection but
> seems unable to control or master, is one possibility. But we
> haven't seen Harry deliberately attempting to use Legilimency and
> I'm not sure that he can. 

Jen: Now possibly the dreams mentioned above were Harry's 
legilimency ability and not possession. I'm a firm believer Lupin is 
a Legilimens (two clues, one in Shrieking Shack and one in 
Grimmauld) and have wondered why we don't know that yet. This would 
be the perfect reason for JKR to hold back, if Lupin is going to 
enter the picture again and teach Harry how to use the scar-
connection to his advantage. 

bboyminn:
> Of course, this doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of
> Harry sacrificing himself. I could fit this in very nicely with my
> speculation that the final battle will occur in front of the Veiled
> Archway of Death. I could speculate that while Harry may dominate
> and possess Voldemort, that doesn't solve the problem. Somehow
> Voldemort has to be destroyed. I could picture Harry taking
> control and dragging himself and Voldemort along with him through
> the Veiled Archway. 

Jen: Or Voldemort will find Harry's 'power' as painful as Harry 
found his possession, and the force of his love will vanquish 
Voldemort? I was glad to hear we might again see that powerful spell 
Dumbledore sent toward Voldemort in the DOM, the one that made the 
gong sound on the shield? I picture that spell being the embodiment 
of love, and felt it would be wonderful irony for a 'gong' of love 
to kill Voldemort when he so underestimated the spell's power: "You 
do not seek to kill me, Dumbledore?" (chap. 36, p. 814, Scholastic) 

I know that theory doesn't make use of the Veil and you greatly want 
to see that happen. I'm thinking we have foreshadowing Harry will 
communicate with the dead through the Veil, after Luna's talk about 
the voices.

Jen, most interested in seeing the locked room again and fully 
expecting Lily was involved with the study of that room.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/119783

(Annemehr's possession post)









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