WW as Parasite (was:Snape's iPod (was: Staff's Activities...)
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 8 01:14:31 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 142618
> >>Betsy Hp:
> > And I'm still confused at why it's patently impossible for Snape
> > to have been exposed to punk rock.
> >>Nora:
> Because it requires him, IMO, given what I know about music
> distribution and musical cultures, to be and/or have been an
> interested party in actually engaging with a distinctively Muggle
> culture.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
This, then, is where we differ. The thing about music is it creeps
in. You can't shut your ears. Snape didn't have to go out and
deliberately seek Muggle forms of music. My theory was that he was
sent back to his father's old home at Spinner's End shortly after
graduating. While holed up there he occasionally (probably daily,
based on his activity level) went out for a walk around the town.
(Snape would *not* be scared of a bunch of miserable Muggles.)
Based on the time and place, Snape may well have heard punk music
blaring from boom-boxes, maybe floating out from a club. Based on
the very angry place he was coming from, it's not unreasonable to
suppose he may have been intrigued. At least, IMO.
I also think the view the Death Eaters have towards Muggles were
more along the lines of segregation era whites towards blacks in the
USA, rather than WWII era Nazies towards Jews in Germany. They
don't want to wipe the Muggles out. They want them clearly defined
as "lesser than". That sort of view allows for a bit of cultural
bleed over. (Both views are totally wrong. Which should go without
saying, but in the interest of clarity... <g>)
> >>Betsy Hp:
> > To clarify my point, I'm not suggesting that the WW goes out
> > enmass to consume Muggle music and culture. Rather that there
> > are those wizards with an interest who *do* venture into the
> > Muggle world, and then bring Muggle items back into the WW,
> > giving them their own wizarding twist for the more squeamish
> > wizards to consume.
> >>Nora:
> I can buy that. That's totally not what was originally suggested
> by the speculation en masse of what kind of Muggle music Lucius
> Malfoy would have exposed young Snapeykins to.
Betsy Hp:
Hmm. I don't honestly see the contradiction. But again, I think I
see a different level of seperation desired by pure-bloods and their
ilk. Also, since I theorize that the WW doesn't have much of a
musical culture (we've heard mention of two perfomers total) and the
idea of life without music is a bit of anathema to me, I assume most
wizards need to go to the Muggle world for their fix.
So you've got your go-betweens who buy a Muggle album and then mass
re-record it in a magical way for a magical record that can play on
a magical gramophone. Or program magical instruments to play
certain pieces, or train up some house-elves, or something of the
sort.
And, actually, I've sort of figured the pure-bloods for the go-
betweens of yesteryear. Especially the ones with money now. Kind
of like robber barons. Adds a nice level of hypocrisy to their
whole, "Muggles suck", mentality, IMO.
> >>Betsy Hp:
> > I *can* say, with a great deal of authority, that one
> > can listen to and enjoy Debussy or Beethoven or Rachmaninov or
> > Velvet Underground or even ABBA (yes, even ABBA!) without taking
> > special courses or having a specialized type of patience. <bg>
> >>Nora:
> Depends on your definition of 'listen', of course... :)
Betsy Hp:
Oh, now I *know* you're a grad student. <bg>
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