Snape in love? Snape's loyalities?
Bart Lidofsky
bartl at sprynet.com
Tue Nov 8 03:57:50 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 142640
Zehms wrote:
> Was Snape "in love" with her, I don't know...and I know many fans
> cringe at the thought, but what would sway DD's opinion about Snape
> more than a repentance story based on 'love'?
Bart:
One of the major things that pushed me into thinking that love for Lily
was Prof. Snape's major motivation was the theme of love being the
strongest magic. Also, use of Lily to control Snape may well have been
Voldemort's motive in initially sparing her life.
Zehms:
> I know many fans point to Snape calling Lily a "filthy little
> Mudblood" in OOTP, however, I would suggest as socially inept as
> Snape is he was acting out as a elementary school child who has a
> crush on a little girl, calling Lily a name to deflect the fact that
> he 'likes' her.
Bart:
And, remember, they were 15 at the time. 15 is probably the most
confused age.
Zehms:
> I think Professor Snape is JKR's most complex character. I think
> Snape has become a perpetual red herring throughout the series (and
> after book 6 this trend continues), primarily because even when he
> saves or helps Harry, Hermione, Ron, or a member of the order his
> demeanor is so, well repulsive. His loathing of a character we all
> love, Harry Potter, makes Snape as a character difficult to like, on
> top of that he is rude an hurtful to Hermione, and he relentlessly
> torments loveable Neville Longbottom-quite truthfully he is VERY EASY
> TO HATE.
Bart:
But love for Lily is a reason why Snape's feelings about Harry are so
complex. Lily would not have died if it weren't for Harry (consider, for
example, in Charles Dickens' A CHRISTMAS CAROL, Freddy, Scrooge's
nephew, is continually rebuffed by Scrooge, as Srooge's beloved sister
died giving birth to Freddy, and Scrooge never forgave him). And, even
worse, Harry resembles Snape's successful rival for Lily's affections.
Yet, he has Lily's eyes, and is all that remains of her, and, if Harry
dies, then Lily's sacrifice is rendered meaningless. In the meantime,
Harry's continued presence is a constant reminder to Snape of what he
lost, which is why, although he does not want to see Harry dead, he
would much prefer for Harry to be somewhere (ANYWHERE) else, even if
it's by means of expulsion.
Zehms:
> In Book 7 I just want to know how Snape earned Dumbledore's trust, I
> want Snape to be worth Dumbledore's sacrafice, but most of all I want
> Dumbledore to be right! If Snape was always a traitor, then
> Dumbledore has been played a fool, and that is a wretched way to end
> Dumbledore's life-as a great wizard who in the end has been
> "hoodwinked" by a repulsive character like Snape.
Bart:
One thing I've noticed numerous times in the series (and disliked) is
the fact that most of the adults, especially those in authority are
either evil or fools; much like Disney movies. Dumbledore is the major
exception, and it is also established that he never quite let go of the
child within himself (for example, use of types of candies as his
password). But he always clearly seems to know a lot more than he's
saying (and, as Prof. John Algeo, noted philogist and Harry Potter fan,
has pointed out, "dumb" can mean "does not talk"). It would completely
violate the character to have made him THAT gullible.
As I have (mis)stated before, to me, the biggest clue to Snape's loyalty
was the fact that he was the one who notified the OOP about the raid on
the Ministry, and it was not mentioned in his "confession" to Mrs. Malfoy.
Bart
More information about the HPforGrownups
archive