CHAPDISC3: Protection Lost at 17???

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 142671

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "tylerswaxlion" <ctcasares at y...>
wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
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> 
> People are always confusing and intermixing Lily's Sacrifice 
> Protection and the Dumbledore's Protection by Lily's Blood at
> the Dursley's. 
>  Steve/bboyminn
> 
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> Tyler:
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> But wasn't Lily's Sacrifice Protection nullified, or, at least, 
> abated, in GOF?  Harry's blood was used to restore Voldemort, 
> and now Voldemort should be able to touch Harry.  ...
> 

bboyminn:

I think Harry still has Lily's Sacrifice Protection, but the nature of
it has change. Voldemort can touch Harry now, but that, I suspect, is
the only aspect of the Protection that did changed. Harry still has
the /general/ protection afforded him by his mother's sacrifice.

I'm sure Dumbledore has spoken of Lily's continued protection after
this incident. I thought perhaps it was in his end of book /talk/ to
Harry at the end of GoF. I did a quick scan and didn't see it though,
but I am confident it has come up in later books.

> Tyler:
>
> Dumbledore's Protection by Lily's Blood may have some unknown 
> constraint having to do with childhood and a childhood home, 
> which is why he was required to live at a blood relative's house
> at least part of a year.  
> 
> Wizarding World children may become adults at 17 for a magical 
> reason-- childhood protection charms may cease to have affect at
> that point.  
> ...edited...
> 
> There's no canonical proof either way, b/c we've never really been 
> told what Dumbledore did or what he told Petunia.  But I can see 
> Dumbledore's spell wearing off as Harry came of age.    
> 
> Tyler


Bboyminn:

I'm not disagreeing with you, ..well, that would be hard since you are
agreeing with me... we agree on the result but have different ideas on
the method. I think I see the end of Dumbledore's Protections Charms
as simply a matter of Harry being an adult, and as an adult, the
Dursleys are no longer his guardians. They go from guadians and
protectors to merely his aunt and uncle. Since they are no longer his
guardians, since Harry is free and independant, the Protection Charms
that invoke Lily's Blood in Petunia are no longer valid. 

This seems to make sense, if Harry leaves the Dursley's at any young
age, that ends the protection. He has to call their house his home,
and he has to be under their care and protection for the charm to
work. I suspect that even if Harry lives with them, the charm ends at
17 because that's when the Dursely's responsibility to care for Harry
ends.

It's a subtle difference, but I really don't see it as anything more
complicated than that.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn