The Possibilities of Grey Snape/Dumbledore/Harry
lupinlore
bob.oliver at cox.net
Tue Nov 15 22:13:50 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143080
Steve wrote:
<SNIP>
> I think Snape very much resent being placed in the 'Judas'
> role. In killing Dumbledore, Snape has set the wizard world
> against him for all time. Even if Snape can come up with a
> reasonable explanation of the circumstances, in the end, the
> wizard world will never forgive him.
> So, Snape is well aware that in destroying Dumbledore, Snape
> has destroyed himself even under the best of circumstances.
> I think this is evident in Snape's reaction to being called a
> coward by Harry. If Harry only knew the level of courage Snape
> had just shown. If Harry only knew just how much Snape had
> sacrificed for the sake of Dumbledore's Grand Plan, Harry
> could never call him a coward.
Lupinlore:
Oh dear, and here is the VERY thing that I think a lot of us
(well, some of us anyway) find so hard to swallow about DDM!Snape.
In his nobility and suffering, his bravery and willingness to
destroy himself for Dumbledore's Grand Plan, he in effect becomes
the hero of the series and Harry simply becomes a plot device, a
way to set up the scene for Severus to undergo apotheosis and,
Christ-like, crucify himself so that others might live. And
Harry can only watch in awe with tears streaming down his cheeks
as waves of shame and humiliation at how he has misunderstood the
noble Snape and the wonderful, wise plan of Dumbledore course
through his unworthy body. In awe, he bows his head in reverence
and decides to dedicate his life to preserving the memory of
Severus Snape, the hero whose bravery and decisions brought down
Voldemort.
Nauseating, ain't it?
Steve:
<SNIP>
> I do believe that Snape, miserable a person as he is, is still
> working Dumbledore Grand Plan, and is willing to continue to
> work it regardless of the consequences to himself. Ultimately,
> in the end, Snape will prove his worth. Though whether he will
> live or die in the process is hard to determine. In one sense,
> it would be a mercy for Snape to die redeeming himself. Like I
> said, even with redemption and a REALLY good explanation, the
> wizard world will never forgive Snape for killing Dumbledore.
Lupinlore:
And once again, the noble and Christ-like Severus takes up his
cross, bearing the pain of rejection and humiliation so that
James' unworthy son might rise to the heights of glory. "Ah,
forgive them readers, they know not what they do," he murmurs
as he accepts his lot for the good of the Wizarding World.
Steve:
> Some very critical points regarding Harry and the Dark Arts.
> Yes, Harry has tried to use the Unforgivable Curses. I can't
> help but wonder what JKR is up to with that. Is she simply
> trying to show Harry as a flawed Hero? Is she forshadowing
> something important? Enquiring minds want to know.
Lupinlore:
Do I hear strains of "Long, long, ago in a galaxy far, far away?"
Of course, Harry hasn't completed his training as a Jedi... err,
wizard, with Yoda... err, Dumbledore, so he may fall into the
grip of the Dark Side... err, Dark Arts, unless he submits
himself to the discipline of Hogwarts Jedi Academy... err, School
of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
Steve:
> To some extent I blame Harry use of the Unforgivables on the
> incredibly poor training he has been given. If I had a kid that
> I knew would have to face a terrible fate, I would have started
> training him specifically to face that fate. <snip>
Lupinlore:
Uh huh. Of course, after all of that, it isn't skills that are
going to save him, but love. Or maybe DD should have given him
lessons in aggressive projection of affect (APOA in wizarding
military terminology).
Steve:
> Lately, I've been fantasizing that McGonagall will ask Harry
> to continue the D.A. Club in the next book. Not necessarily
> to come to Hogwarts as a student or a formal teacher, but to
> simply drop by once a week and teach the D.A. Club.
<snip>
Lupinlore:
That's a good plot hook. I could see it happening easily.
Steve:
> To the last point, while I have no proof or even sound
> indications, I think Snape will be instrumental in helping
> Harry. <snip>I really don't see Harry having either the skill
> or resources to find and destroy the Horcruxes,
<snip>.
Lupinlore:
My goodness, you don't have much faith in our hero, do you?
Steve:
> The only available candidate for that level of help is Snape.
Lupinlore:
And so, having been given as a perfect offering for the life of
the wizarding world, Our Lord and Savior Severus Snape comes
forward to lift the unworthy and wormlike wretch Harry Potter
into salvation, forgiving him his sins and ignorance and leading
him through the Valley of the Shadow of Voldemort, where he
shall fear no Horcrux, for his wand and his guidance shall
comfort him, and surely Harry shall know his own ignorance and unworthiness for the rest of his days.
Lupinlore.
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