Childhood values v Adulthood values in Potterverse WAS: Re: Power vs. Trust

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> Pippin:
> LOL! If they had been robbing the villagers' homes in order to 
provide
> their impoverished friend with some well-deserved spending money,
> would that have been poorly executed noble intentions too? They
> were robbing the villagers of their safety and that's just as bad.
> 
> I suppose Fenrir just has poorly executed noble intentions, 
also,since all
> he wants is companionship and a better life for werewolves.

Alla:

On that point we just have to agree to disagree, I suppose, because 
it is the case of different interpretation of the same canon. I don't 
have new canon to add, I just think that being with ill friend and 
helping him if not totally be sane during transformations, but make 
it easier for him is noble. They did not set up to endanger 
villagers, they just did not think it through, IMO.

As I said I have nothing to add to this point. :-)


> 
> Alla earlier:
<snip>
As to your general argument, well, some children are selfish, of 
course, but I do think that in general JKR portrays kids, whom she 
considers to be good people overall (not saint, just good) as MUCH 
more capable than adults whom she considers to be the good people.
> 
> Pippin:
> You do? Could you give some examples? 

Alla:

Absolutely. The best IMO would be of course Harry being on Draco's 
case through HBP AND going to the adults about it and still result 
being disastrous. What else? Oh, of course Chamber of Secrets - no 
teachers went to save Ginny, but two twelve year olds did. I can come 
up with more later, if you wish, but this comes of the top of my head.


> > Alla earlier:
> > 
Dumbledore learned about Quirrell only when he was about to leave 
school, no? Unless of course you believe that Snape told him earlier, 
which I don't.
 
> Pippin:
> 
> Huh? According to Dumbledore, he did not get Ron and Hermione's owl,
> (not surprising because they never got a chance to send it.) <snip>

Alla:

I was not clear, I guess. I don't consider that to be THAT big 
accomplishment on Dumbledore's part to figure that out that late in 
the game. The fact that Ron and Hermione and Harry stil did not know, 
well, they are very young still, but what I am trying to say that IMO 
Dumbledore failed by not figuring out earlier what was up with 
Quirrell.



> > Alla earlier:
> 
> > If Dumbledore knew what Draco was up to, he appeared to be VERY 
> > surprised by Dark Mark at the end.
> 
> Pippin:
> He was surprised  because he knew he was the
> intended victim and he knew he wasn't dead.  


Alla:

Could you point me to the quote, please?

JMO,

Alla