Childhood values v Adulthood values in Potterverse WAS: Re: Power vs. Trust
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Nov 17 23:30:14 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143159
>
> > Alla earlier:
> <snip>
> As to your general argument, well, some children are selfish, of
> course, but I do think that in general JKR portrays kids, whom she
> considers to be good people overall (not saint, just good) as MUCH
> more capable than adults whom she considers to be the good people.
> >
> > Pippin:
> > You do? Could you give some examples?
>
> Alla:
>
> Absolutely. The best IMO would be of course Harry being on Draco's
> case through HBP AND going to the adults about it and still result
> being disastrous. What else? Oh, of course Chamber of Secrets - no
> teachers went to save Ginny, but two twelve year olds did. I can come
> up with more later, if you wish, but this comes of the top of my head.
Pippin:
Um, it is just your interpretation of canon that the adults weren't doing
anything about it. We don't know whether they weren't taking Harry
seriously or they were pretending not to because Dumbledore didn't
want him involved.
They didn't arrest Draco and clap him in irons, no. Dumbledore says it's
because he didn't want Draco or his mother to be killed. He's says he's
been aware of what Draco has been doing all year. He says he was
certain that Draco was behind the attacks. Don't you believe him?
Are you saying that McGonagall or any of the other teachers would not
have tried to save Ginny if Harry had gone to them instead? Remember,
the only reason he could find the chamber was because he was
a parselmouth, not because kids are more capable than grownups.
Hermione is smarter than just about anybody, but that, again, is because
she's talented, not because she's a kid. She *is* a grown-up now, by
wizard standards. It doesn't seem to have dropped her IQ.
> > > Alla earlier:
> >
> > > If Dumbledore knew what Draco was up to, he appeared to be VERY
> > > surprised by Dark Mark at the end.
> >
> > Pippin:
> > He was surprised because he knew he was the
> > intended victim and he knew he wasn't dead.
>
>
> Alla:
>
> Could you point me to the quote, please?
Pippin:
"You have been trying, with increasing desperation, to kill me all year."
OOP ch 27
Pippin
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