Love: the Opposite horcrux
zehms at aol.com
zehms at aol.com
Thu Nov 17 23:26:40 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143171
Steve/bboyminn:
To say 'love will conquer Voldemort' is all good and well, but how?
What are the practical aspect of it. Think of it from Harry
perspective and ask yourself if you would really send a soldier into
battle who was untrained and unarmed? Would you really be cold enough
to tell him that 'love conquers all' and send him off?
<SNIP>
Yes, to the reader, in the end, Love can conquer all, but to a 17 year
old wizard facing insurmountable tasks, you damn well better hone your
skills and gather your resources. To do otherwise is irrational and
illogical.
szehms replies:
I think our disagreement is a matter of semantics.
I wrote a very long logical argument making the case that Love will save
Harry IN THE END.
Your points are related more to Harry's initial journey and quest: destroying
the horcruxes.
First of all, I think you underestimate Harry's talents. Harry is more
gifted than he even realizes, just because he is constantly telling others the
"pure dumb luck" has saved him throughout his many trials in the sereis, does not
mean that this is so. Harry underestimates his powers, I think we will see a
much more mature Harr in book 7, a Harry with more confidence in his abilities.
I also think that Harry is a more gifted legilimens than he knows. I wtote
this before, but I think that in OOTP when Harry is taking the O.W.L for the
History of Magic, Harry is using Legilimency to help him with the test (he
thinks to himself if only he could use Legilimency to read Pavarti's mind for the
answers, then the answers begin to come to him as he is relaxed), other fans
have noted other passages where Harry seesm to be reading the minds of other
characters.
This gift of Legilimency will help him on his quest.
I also believe his rare to speak ability Parceltongue will help him.
He also just seems to know what to do in dangerous situations, IMO this is a
gift, not luck.
I do believe that being the son of two extraordinarily gifted wizards while
also possessing the unique talents of the powerful Voldemort (along with a
unique connection to his feelings and thoughts) have created in Harry an
extremely gifted and powerful wizard: he is uniquely qualified to destroy Voldemort,
and IMO to discover Voldemorts secrets, thus discover the horcruxes. I think
we have not yet learned how very powerful his connection to LV is, could this
connection help him to just 'know' how to destroy these horcruxes LIKE HE JUST
KNEW HOW TO DESTROY THE DIARY REMNANT?
I think we cannot underestimate Harry's connection to DD, if Harry can learn
to channel this, I think he can really have an edge, IMO he will learn to
manipulate this connection to his advantage.
Also, Harry's powerful and dedicated friends will certainly help Harry in his
quest. Although Harry believes he has to do this completely alone, and I do
think JKR wants this to be Harry's journey, we all pretty much believe that
Harry will recieve help. I do believe that Harry will become an even greater
leader, but a great leader knows when to ask for help, he has Bill Weasley the
"curse-breaker", he has the brilliant Hermoine, he has the talented members of
the Order, I do believe that Aberforth will give Harry some tools passed on
from DD to help Harry, and IMO Harry will discover at some point the Snape can
be of some vital assistance.
I also think inheriting 12 Grimmauld Place and Kreacher will serve a very
useful purpose. IMO Harry has alot of answers to be found there.
IMO book 6 is really quite a grand mystery to be unraveled, by this I mean we
have a very limited perspective in HBP, I do think JKR will answer so many of
our questions quite satisfactorily in book 7, one of those burning questions
that you ask and many other fans ask is How can Harry accomplish such a task?
I think he has the gifts already,. JKR has alluded as much in recent
interviews.
A crash course in curses is not what he needs, he just needs to find the
power within himself, and IMO he will.
szehms
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