Shaken Dumbledore? /Snape speech to Bella again
dumbledore11214
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Thu Nov 24 02:56:11 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143436
> Carol wrote:
>
> > This (natural) assumption fits with the cover story that Snape
tells
> > Bellatrix: DD is getting old, his reactions have slowed, and the
> > battle in the DoM "shook" him (HBP Am. ed. 31)--this last
statement
> > being an out-and-out lie as far as I can see. <snip>
Quick_silver:
> I actually disagree with the assessment that the battle in the DoM
> didn't shake Dumbledore. I think that it did...he certainly seemed
> frightened when Voldemort took control of Harry.
Alla:
Snape tells Bella that Dumbledore sustained serious injury because
his
reactions slowed down AFTER battle in DOM, so I don't think that for
example Betsy's argument somewhere in this thread that Dumbledore
does
not show slowing of reactions during the battle is very strong one.
I am completely with Quick_silver here - during the battle in MOM
for
all we know Dumbledore may have sustained one of the biggest shock
moments in his life, if he indeed loves Harry as deeply as he claims.
For all we know, he felt completely helpless and powerless and he
had
no clue how to save Harry for all we know. Dumbledore does not tell
Harry in his final speech in OOP that " I saved you", he says "your
heart saved you".
Is it such a big stretch to assume that such huge stress indeed
slowed down his reactions? I think it is a reasonable assumption to
make.
Yes, I still do not see any claims in Snape's speech to Bella that
had
been outright disproved by the canon. To me, it is a very strong
possibility that everything or almost everything that Snape said is
a
truth. It also could be lie of course...
Actually, the part of Snape's speech that is the strongest argument
that he is NOT a good guy to me is his bragging about the murder of
Eveline Vance (I did read the argument on somebody's LJ, but I
cannot remember who it was- I think it was Junediamanti, but not
sure). On all other objectionable parts it could be argued either
way, but ao far in canon there is nothing that disproves that Snape
took part in her murder, not even a hint, IMO.
JMO,
Alla
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