PoA - Snape knew?

colebiancardi muellem at bc.edu
Fri Nov 25 15:16:54 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 143473

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "whizbang" <whizbang121 at y...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Miles" <xmilesx at g...> wrote:
> 
> > Miles: 
> > Would you find me some evidence in canon for this? I recently read
> > GoF, and I never had the idea that Snape knew about the real 
> > identity of Fake!Moody.
> 
> Whiz:  I hope this is allowed.
> http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=1770807&postcount=412
> http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=1772150&postcount=415
> http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=1828168&postcount=458
> 
> These posts are all pre HBP and at the time, I thought Snape wanted to
> get into Harry's head to discover how to kill the DL.  Post HBP, my
> thought is that he is that, as Dumbledore told Harry, he would kill
> for the connection to the DL's thoughts that Harry has.
> 

well, that is one way to look at it.  But it is an interpretation, not
canon that actually stated that Snape knew about Barty Jr or was
helping him.  My interpretation of those scenes, starting with the
staircase showdown, was that Snape was afraid of Mad-Eye, because
Mad-Eye/Jr made threats about getting DE's who got away.  Also, at
this time we didn't know Snape was an ex-DE who was spying for DD.  It
could have been that Snape didn't want Mad-Eye poking around in his
head and that Snape has had his office searched by Mad-Eye/Jr against
Snape's wishes.  

The second scene outside of DD's office - I just chalked that up to
Snape being, well, Snape.  He has no love for Harry.  Or maybe he knew
that DD was coming down and wanted to torment Harry a bit.  Not saying
it is right that Snape does this, but that is how I viewed it.  

The Foe-Glass to me tells me that Snape is not helping Barty.  That is
canon - 
"Oh that's my Foe-Glass.  See them out there, skulking around?  I'm
not really in trouble until I see the whites of their eyes".  p 343 Am
Ed Hardcover GoF

"Moody was thrown backward onto the office floor. Harry, still
starting at the place where Moody's face had been, saw Albus
Dumbledore, Professor Snape and Professor McGonagall looking back at
him out of the Foe-Glass".  p. 679 GoF


> 
> 
> To be rid of muggleborns and bloodtraitors.  This is all political,
> it's all about power.
> 
> Hermione points out that if all the DEs were purebloods, there
> wouldn't be very many of them.  Remember, purebloods don't hate
> halfbloods near as much as they do muggleborns and half breeds.  While
> they would dominate half bloods, they will tolerate them.  We know
> little of Snape's ancestry.  His mother may have come from an
> influencial family.  He certainly was friendly enough with purebloods.

but isn't Snape's own life in danger once all the muggleborns &
half-bloods are gone - there are no half-breeds, they are called
half-bloods.  Playing a dangerous game isn't he?  And as much as I
think Snape is not proud or happy of his past choices as a DE, I doubt
he has that much self-loathing for himself, that he would help LV to
destroy all the non-purebloods, which would include himself or if
Snape wasn't killed, to be less than a wizard - a slave to the
purebloods.  Nah, I can't see it.  Remember, many in the wizarding
community thought that LV was on the right track until LV got it into
his head that non-purebloods should be destroyed.  

> 
> I'll take it a step further.  I believe that Snape's animagus is an
> insect, a buzzing insect to be precise.  And I'm toying with the idea
> that he's Draco's godfather, though I'm fuzzy on that one.

what does Snape's animagus have to do with Snape helping Barty Jr? 
And many people have stated they believe that Snape's animagus is also
an insect - a bee, in fact.  To show loyality to DD.  


Purebloods like the Malfoys would never have a half-blood like Snape
be in any way, shape or form, connected somehow in the family.  A
godfather's role is to help raise the child if the parents die or to
offer spiritual advise.  The Malfoys use Snape and he uses them back.
 I doubt think Snape is *that* close to the Malfoys at all.  I think
Snape is the go-to guy for them, but a godfather?  

colebiancardi
(interpretation of scenes is not canon.  Otherwise, all my bright
ideas could be called canon as well!!)







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