memory

JLen1777 at aol.com JLen1777 at aol.com
Sun Nov 27 11:12:12 UTC 2005


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CH3ed wrote:
 
When a person extracts a memory to put 
away is extracted memory that  the only copy of that memory? Nothing 
more of the event is left in the  person's head? 

It seems to me that Snape put his worst memory away in  the pensieve 
when he was teaching Harry occlumency to prevent Harry from  being 
able to see it if an accident like the "protego" incident where  
Snape's ligilimen rebounded on himself recurs. So that supports 'no  
original copy left in the head' theory. 

But then Slug retained the  true memory about his horcrux chat with 
young LV even though he had already  gave DD an altered one. Also 
we've seen that obliviated memory can be  recovered (LV did that with 
Bertha Jorkins), but then obliviate charm's  mechanics is probably 
different from using the wand to extract memory to put  in a 
penseive. Any thoughts? :O)
 
 
Jaimee now:
 
A very interesting question, and one that made me start thinking more about  
memories and pensieves and such.  I think that memories in the WW must be  
just as slippery as they can be in the real world.   You used  good examples for 
each 'memory theory', and though I understand and enjoyed  your reasoning for 
Snape's removal of his memory during occlumency lesson's with  Harry to 
support 'no original copy left in the head' theory, I think it actually  shows the 
opposite.  
 
Snape carefully removes the memory before each lesson, so we can assume  that 
it is important to Snape that Harry not see this memory.  When Harry  does 
'slip' into the memory, and Snape finds him eavesdropping in the pensieve,  
would Snape have such a horrible reaction when he finds him if he did not RECALL  
what the memory was about?
 
I guess what I am saying is a person must retain at least an outline or  idea 
of the memory for a variety of reasons.  Snape removed the 'true' core  part 
of the memory in order to hide it from Harry, but Slughorn only removed the  
just of the memory and held on to the 'true' core part of it because he was  
ashamed of what it would show others.  Ultimately the memory holder has  control 
of what they retain and what they remove based on their own personal  
reasons. 
 
It also made me start thinking of The Worst Memory Chapter in OOTP in a  
different way.  Though this may have been brought up before I was on the  board, I 
have not noticed it since I have been here, but I would love to see  what 
people think:  Why would Snape be more afraid of Harry seeing this  memory, than, 
for instance, his memory of hearing Trelawney's prophesy, or  revealing it to 
Voldemort?  Wouldn't that be a memory that would be more  detrimental for 
Harry to hear?  I think this seems like it could lead to  some interesting 
conversation on why Snape felt this memory was so  important to hide from Harry.
 
Great question, and thanks for making me think about WW memories a little  
more deeply.
 
Jaimee



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