memory

h2so3f h2so3f at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 27 18:32:23 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 143546

Jaimee wrote: <snip>
"I guess what I am saying is a person must retain at least an 
outline or idea of the memory for a variety of reasons. Snape 
removed the 'true' core part of the memory in order to hide it from 
Harry, but Slughorn only removed the just of the memory and held on 
to the 'true' core part of it because he was ashamed of what it 
would show others. Ultimately the memory holder has control of what 
they retain and what they remove based on their own personal 
reasons."

CH3ed:
I agree. :O) I'm thinking that Snape would remember what the memory 
he removed was about, but he would not recall any detail of the 
incident with the Marauders and Lily after their O.W.L.S as long as 
that memory has not been put back in his head. So removing the 
memory by wanding it out doesn't cause general amnesia, you still 
retain the table of contents but the particular content is no longer 
there. If the removed memory is destroyed before you can put it back 
in your head, then you will remember that you have removed the 
memory about an event, but you wouldn't be able to recall what 
happened in that event again. In which case you've better store the 
removed memories in container with unbreakable and fire-proofing 
charms, ay? ;O)  


Jaimee wrote:
"Why would Snape be more afraid of Harry seeing this memory, than, 
for instance, his memory of hearing Trelawney's prophesy, or 
revealing it to Voldemort? Wouldn't that be a memory that would be 
more detrimental for Harry to hear? I think this seems like it could 
lead to some interesting conversation on why Snape felt this memory 
was so important to hide from Harry." <snip>

CH3ed:
Well, it is possible that there were other memories in that penseive 
beside the one that Harry saw. Snape pulled Harry back out just as 
that "after the OWLS" memory was ending. Had DD pulled Harry out of 
his penseive at the end of Karkaloff's trial then Harry (and we) 
wouldn't know that the memories of Bagman's and Crouch Jr (and 
Bella)'s trials were there also.

Also, if that was the only memory in the penseive, it is possible 
that Snape (being as unfair and mean as he is) wouldn't care if 
Harry thinks Snape got the better of James in the end (playing a 
part in James' and Lily's death). The memory that Harry saw; on the 
other hand, showed James and his gang getting the best of Snape. 
That would be a bit childish and not well prioritized of Snape, but 
then when it comes to Harry and the Marauders Snape's hatred has a 
way of fogging his judgment. 


Jaimee:
"Great question, and thanks for making me think about WW memories a 
little more deeply."

CH3ed:
Thanks! I think it was likely a fluke on my part. :O) I'm usually on 
the trivial end of the spectrum.








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