Dumbledore's-death-is-a-fake-theory

Miles miles at martinbraeutigam.de
Mon Nov 28 22:36:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 143624

n_longbottom01 wrote:
> I like what Constance Vigilance pointed out about Dumbledore's
> conversation with Slughorn about why he wasn't fooled by Slughorn's
> attempt to fake his own death... "no dark mark."  The scene shows
> that if Dumbledore was going to fake a death, he would do it right.

Miles:
Slughorn faked an attack, not a murder. As I pointed out, there was no faked
corpse. I do not see much parallels in both scenes. The scene in chapter 4
is used to characterize Slughorn - as a very skilled wizard and as being
very concerned about any unannounced visitors.
What strikes me - why should he fake an attack of Deatheaters in order to
deter an attack from Deatheaters? But maybe this is not important, just came
across it.

n_longbottom01 wrote:
> Would
> Snape be breaking his unbreakable vow if he only pretended to kill
> Dumbledore?  Maybe Dumbledore's death was faked and the unbreakable
> vow will come back to bite Snape in the next book.

Miles:
Snape swore to help Draco fulfill his task. The task was to kill Dumbledore.
To fake this, would surely be a break of the vow. If not this, what? If not
immediately, when?

n_longbottom01 wrote:
> Dumbledore implies that he can hide Draco by faking his death

Miles:
This is your interpretation. Dumbledore says, that he could hide Draco, not
more, not less. The implication of a faked death is a possible
interpretation, but only one among several other.

n_longbottom01 wrote:
> I know that you aren't supposed to be able to Apparate on Hogwarts
> grounds, but we didn't see Dumbledore fall the way to the ground...
> what if he Apparated to a safe spot just as he disappeard from sight
> over the edge of the tower.

Miles:
As you stated, you can not apparate on the grounds. Dumbledore could have
lifted this for his own purpose, but that would have meant he had planned
all this before, including the exact time and place for the showdown. To
lift this major protection of Hogwarts on the spot without anybody noticing
it - no way. Not really convincing, if Rowling would come around with
something like that. Possible, but this would be bad writing IMHO.

n_longbottom01 wrote:
(several things on vanishing)

Miles:
We know one person who survived the Avada Kedavra. This person is not Albus
Dumbledore. We do know that the freezing charm Dumbledore used on Harry is
person bound. Dumbledore couldn't have lifted it, but it was lifted - there
is only one other conclusion: that Dumbledore died.

Miles, who has the impression that the major reason for most people who
believe in Dumbledore being still alive is wishful thinking







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