Dumbledore's-death-is-a-fake-theory
hg_skmg
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Wed Nov 30 03:10:03 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 143725
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Miles:
There are differences much more important than the Dark Mark. The It
is not difficult to fake blood, no need to use Dragon's blood. We can
be pretty sure, that "faking human blood" is not among the 12 uses of
Dragon's blood Dumbledore and Flamel discovered...
hg:
True, but why fake it if it's already in your pocket, maybe? I've
thought for a long time that it's a strong possibility that Slughorn
took Dumbledore's place that night (except no-one died). Even
without a switch, if Slughorn was on the back-end of a faked death,
he'd have that bottle on hand with little use for it other than a
purpose such as this.
Miles:
To cast the Dark Mark is a question of seconds only, so Gibbon did
have no reason to stay on top of the tower. There was no need for
Rosmerta to see it before DD and Harry arrived, the only thing for
her to do was using her coin to contact Draco when they arrived.
hg:
If you're suggesting that Rosmerta wasn't truthful when she told them
the DM had been set minutes before they arrived, I suppose that does
shed some doubt on the possibility of another person setting it. But
if we take what she says at face value, it seems too much time
elapses before Dumbledore & Harry arrive for Gibbon to have set it --
it would seem to me, instead, that he saw it already set when he went
up to the tower.
Miles:
> I agree, that he could have had a motivation to fake his death. But
I really doubt that he had the chance to do it. To fake this death
scene, he would have had to anticipate not only a showdown with
Deatheaters. He was surprised that they managed to come to Hogwarts.
I do not think this was faked surprise, because this bunch of
murderers in his school, endangering every student - no, Dumbledore
would never take that kind of risk. But without knowing Deatheaters
coming to Hogwarts, how could he plan the scenario on top of the
tower, or some similar one?
hg:
I think he did anticipate that Malfoy was poised to strike, and that
it would be that night. He also anticipated the need to fake his
death, as he almost must be aware of the UV. I don't think he'd plan
that scenario up on the tower to play out as it did; rather, he'd
have a loose plan and deal with the surprises (such as the DE's) as
they came. But I think with a year to come up with something, he'd
find a way, and he'd choose life and continuing the struggle against
Voldemort, over avoiding a big lie to the WW.
Miles:
And to bring in the meta killer argument: Rowling stated in
interviews, that characters who die in her books are really dead and
do not return.
hg:
I'm taking this out of context, but it applies to what I've said
above: If he never died, he was never "properly dead," and thus she
hasn't broken her own rules.
(And Miles, thank you for the feedback.)
hg.
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