Harry's bias again, answering several posts
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 1 18:35:48 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141015
> > Potioncat:
The "celebrity" which Snape refers to is the celebrity that
Harry discovers at Hogwarts. We're told (I think in the chapter The
Potion Master) that students are pointing at Harry, whispering about
him, changing their routes to classes to get to see him, etc.
Flitwick fell
off his chair at Potter's name. So Snape, Grand Lurker that he
is, had observed this. That much we can know from only SS/PS.
As we get each new book, we can see other possible motivations for
Snape's treatment of Harry in that first class, or even at other
times in the books.
>
>
Alla:
Yes, we do and I think it is VERY interesting that with only ONE
book left we are still yet to see ANY of those motivations to be
correct or to be the motivations of the decent person, IMO only of
course.
I mean, the one which you just listed, sure , Snape sees all that,
but woudn't the decent person make sure BEFORE he did what he did on
the first lesson that Harry actually enjoys his celebrity status?
It seems like Snape's powers of observation are oddly one sided, no?
Isn't it fundamentally unfair to do what Snape did before he
observed Harry himself or at least as someone said "compared notes"
with his colleagues?
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>
> Potioncat:
> > I'm not looking for reasons to justify Snape's behavior, but to
> > explain his actions.
> Alla:
>
> Yes, I understand.
Alla wrote earlier:
<snip>
I think Snape did it on purpose, knowing whole well that
Harry has no clue about magic yet and have not had ever any
exposion to magic after his parents' murder. Just me of course.
> > Pippin:
You're assuming that Harry would have known the answers to
Snape's questions if he'd been raised in the WW. But Ron was as
stumped as he was, not surprising since draught of living death
and the bezoar are NEWT level. It's only Harry's assumption that
everyone who's been raised in the WW knows lots of magic already.
But in fact they aren't supposed to, though Harry doesn't realize
this until the end of his first year.
>
Alla:
Erm... Okay, so Snape asked Harry the questions, which only NEWT
level student was supposed to know. How does it make his behaviour
better? If you are saying that nobody would have known the answers
anyway, well, the fact of the matter remains that he asked Harry,
not anybody else.
But I think that Harry's assumption is absolutely correct in a sense
that pureblood or half blood kids who live in WW are MUCH more
familiar with magic that Harry is. They grew up with magic, Pippin,
while Harry did not. The fact that they are not supposed to perform
the magic outside the school, does not change the fact that they
have seen their parents perform it and aren't the kids who are
homeschooled are allowed to perform the magic under supervision of
their parents? I am not sure about the answer to this question, but
again it is not very relevant to my main argument.
I am just saying that Harry is in completely new world, why kids who
lived here all their lives are not, their level of familiarity with
magic is significantly higher than Harry's. Till few days ago, Harry
did not even know what wand is, no?
> Pippin:
> <SNIP>
> > Snape was picking on Harry, but he wasn't taking advantage of
> Harry's
> > ignorance of the wizarding world, just his ignorance in general.
Alla:
Personally, I think he was taking advantage of Harry's ignorance of
WW, but maybe he was doing both.
JMO,
Alla
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