Harry's bias again, answering several posts

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 1 18:35:48 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141015

> > Potioncat:
The "celebrity" which Snape refers to is the celebrity that 
Harry discovers at Hogwarts. We're told (I think in the chapter The
Potion Master) that students are pointing at Harry, whispering about 
him, changing their routes to classes to get to see him, etc. 
Flitwick fell 
off his chair at Potter's name. So Snape, Grand Lurker that he 
is, had observed this. That much we can know from only SS/PS. 
As we get each new book, we can see other possible motivations for 
Snape's treatment of Harry in that first class, or even at other 
times in the books.
> 
> 
Alla: 
Yes, we do and I think it is VERY interesting that with only ONE 
book left we are still yet to see ANY of those motivations to be 
correct or to be the motivations of  the decent person, IMO only of 
course.

I mean,  the one which you just listed, sure , Snape sees all that, 
but woudn't the decent person make sure BEFORE he did what he did on 
the first lesson that Harry actually enjoys his celebrity status?

It seems like Snape's powers of observation are oddly one sided, no?
Isn't it fundamentally unfair to do what Snape did before he 
observed Harry himself or at least as someone said "compared notes" 
with his colleagues?
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
> > I'm not looking for reasons to justify Snape's behavior, but to 
> > explain his actions.
 
> Alla:
> 
> Yes, I understand.


Alla wrote earlier:
<snip>
I think Snape did it on purpose, knowing whole well  that 
Harry has no clue about magic yet and have not had  ever any 
exposion to magic  after his parents' murder. Just me of course.
  
> > Pippin:
You're assuming that Harry would have known the answers to 
Snape's questions if he'd been raised in the WW. But Ron was as 
stumped as he was, not surprising since  draught of living death 
and  the bezoar are NEWT level. It's only Harry's assumption that 
everyone who's been raised in the WW knows lots of magic already. 
But in fact they aren't supposed to, though Harry doesn't realize 
this until the end of his first year. 
> 
 
Alla:
 
Erm... Okay, so Snape asked Harry the questions, which only NEWT
level student was supposed to know. How does it make his behaviour 
better? If you are saying that nobody would have known  the answers 
anyway, well, the fact of the matter remains that he asked Harry, 
not anybody else. 
But I think that Harry's assumption is absolutely correct in a sense 
that pureblood or half blood kids who live in WW are MUCH more 
familiar with magic that Harry is. They grew up with magic, Pippin, 
while Harry did not. The fact that they are not supposed to perform 
the magic outside the school, does not change the fact that they 
have seen their parents perform it and aren't the kids who are 
homeschooled are allowed to perform  the magic under supervision of 
their parents? I am not sure about  the answer to this question, but 
again it is not very relevant to my main argument.

I am just saying that Harry is in completely new world, why kids who 
lived here all their lives are not, their level of familiarity with 
magic is significantly higher than Harry's. Till few days ago, Harry 
did not even know what wand is, no?

 
 
> Pippin:
> <SNIP>
> > Snape was picking on Harry, but he wasn't taking advantage of
> Harry's
> > ignorance of the wizarding world, just his ignorance in general.

Alla: 
Personally, I think he was taking advantage of Harry's ignorance of 
WW, but maybe he was doing both.
 
 
JMO,

Alla







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