Motivations for Joining DEs (Was: Bullying)

[nrenka]

No: HPFGUIDX 141134

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> wrote:
> 
>> Nora wrote:
>> Upthread someone else asked about Obliviate, so now I think I have 
>> what could be used to make a distinction, although I'm not sure I 
>> buy it.  It's the classic difference between necessary and 
>> sufficient; or another angle on the same idea is whether it has 
>> any other purpose/use.
> 
> Really? Well, then, Imperius can be used for good uses too. In 
fact, 
> even Aveda Kedavra can be used for good uses, depends on what you 
> define as "good".

Not if you combine the question of necessarily/sufficient/use with 
the problem of the violation of subjectivity, mentioned upthread.  AK 
and Imperius always violate a person's right to be himself, 
necessarily (and sufficiently, to boot); I argue that this, in the 
world of the Potterverse, violates the condition of 'good'.  It ain't 
a deeply relativistic world, I think.  I assumed that these later 
conditions were being stacked onto the earlier ones, as that was the 
problem we were thinking about.

-Nora runs off to begin the day